Too Much Stuff

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2013/01/05 04:15:38 (permalink)

Too Much Stuff

Hi all
My musical experience has been mostly singing to a live audience.
However, I'm interested in recording music, but I'm not had much experience of that and as I've discovered it is challenging to get it right.
Nevertheless very enjoyable.
Anyways, here's my latest original composition put down to hard drive!

Hope you enjoy.
As usual all comments welcome.

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    elix
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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/05 05:38:51 (permalink)
    not bad !!

    but the recording result very dark and soo far !!

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/05 06:56:44 (permalink)
    Great song! The vocals seem to be too up front and detached from the band. The kick drum needs to be heard also.

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/05 07:07:19 (permalink)
    thanks elix and scottytunes
    I played the instruments except the drums, which I programmed.
    I can redo the drums with a more pronounced Bass drum part. I used a Roland DR880 for this. 
    I'll work on it more once I have a few things to try on it. All done in my mates studio.
    Thanks for the listen!
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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/05 10:57:20 (permalink)
    Not my cup of tea, but seems a well arranged and performed. For me, the fun in this is figuring this stuff out, so I know what you mean by challenging yet enjoyable. The mix is indeed a bit low volume.

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/05 13:00:38 (permalink)
     You have a good song here, but, as others have noted, the mix sounds distant and doesn't blend with the vocal.  You can easily fix this, and you'll have a winner on your hands.

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/05 15:39:08 (permalink)
    I agree with most. The song is fun and a keeper. The production is as stated. As Shad states: it is fun figuring this stuff out. Keep at it and listen to the good advice on here. There are many who will give you good pointers.

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/06 14:13:18 (permalink)
    Thanks to foxwolfen, lynn and tfbattag.
    How can i get the vocal to blend more with the band?

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/08 16:57:52 (permalink)
    Great song and well played and sung!  Others here can help with the mix...you're in the right place. :)  
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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/11 17:51:07 (permalink)
    Thank you Janet.
    Glad you enjoyed my song.


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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/12 11:25:08 (permalink)
    Good song, great hook! 

    Perfect style to begin your mixing journey. I'd start with the drums, get those balanced with that great bassline, then go from there.



     
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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/13 08:28:50 (permalink)
    Cheers james
    I'll give that a go

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/13 13:28:02 (permalink)
    OK here is a remix, as suggested by all and lastly by James who gave some specific ideas via PM.

    (same soundcloud link as before)
    https://soundcloud.com/the-wildman/too-much-stuff
    summary;
    remixed drums
    less distant vocal

    hopefully an improvement??

    What next?

    post edited by the wildman - 2013/01/13 13:30:02

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/13 13:57:43 (permalink)
    the wildman

    and lastly by James who gave some specific ideas via PM.


    Did I..? Must have been some other body. 




    This sounds tons better..vocals sound great now.


    Drums are clearer but there's not much difference between the kick and the snare, they're both very clicky.


    The bass is pretty low now, that could come up.


    If you have more than one guitar track I would pan them left and right outside the vocal, or balance the guitar and piano that way, leave some room in the centre for the bass.


    Is the organ playing right through the song? I only heard it at the end.


    Huge improvement though.

     
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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/15 04:53:25 (permalink)
    I have re-done the drums, and one or two remix bits.
    Its on the same link @ https://soundcloud.com/the-wildman/too-much-stuff
    what next please mixers?


    appreciating the help so far. thanks.

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/15 08:40:08 (permalink)
    The story of my life. It's all in bins just sitting there collecting dust. Stacked 5 feet high. It's been sitting there so long it easy to understand how the Earth compresses things.

    Love the song. It's a fun one!!

    Well done!

    This piano thing that came on after is really cool! Most excellent!!!

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/15 08:53:52 (permalink)
    thanks guitarpima
    glad you enjoyed my number!

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/15 11:18:04 (permalink)
    Great song and great progress on it! The biggest challenge when you're the whole band plus engineer plus producer is switching hats such that each component gets equal attention. Guitar players tend to mix guitars too loud. Drummers, the drums. Singers are either overconfident and mix the vocals too hot, or they're lacking in confidence and mix them too low. It's actually really hard to put yourself into each role with equal enthusiasm and still see the big picture.

    As for mix suggestions, the balance is good but what I'm missing is width and depth. See what might be moved out of the center, e.g. backing vocals, and play with delays and reverb to add width and move some elements back in the mix. For example, there are some guitar lead lines that could be shifted, perhaps adding an opposite-panned reverb or delay to balance it out.


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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/15 11:47:56 (permalink)
    Came in late so I did not hear any of the first mixes.

    Dave (bitflipper) has hit the nail on the head. Also, the bass lacks a little definition. An easy trick to try is adding some chorus and/or light distortion to the bass. I do this in in parallel (i.e. a send clean signal to chorus/distortion bus and blend the clean and fx bus into a final bass bus).

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/15 12:02:24 (permalink)
    great comments bitflipper and bapu
    ill try out those suggestions.
    i also think that i need to lower the hi hats as they seem to dominate.

    thanks again

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/22 09:30:02 (permalink)
    ok
    done that
    whats next

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/22 10:05:17 (permalink)
    nice work.  the mix seems to lack "clarity" and it seems very "dull"  sounds like a few timing issues here and there - no one else mentioned it, so maybe I'm just hearing it wrong?

    I personally don't like the hat sound
    post edited by Beagle - 2013/01/22 10:06:37

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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/01/22 10:12:34 (permalink)
    Sounded Good

    Enjoy your journey into the mixing world.

    Looking forward to hearing more of your work  


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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/03/05 11:59:04 (permalink)
    This is a very cool song, and I’m sorry I missed it earlier...
    Great lyrics and singing... Solid guitar track, but it’s stepping on the vocal.
    The main problem is; The drum track is completely wrong for this song.. It’s way too busy, and erratic..
    The intro is a mess, and I can’t hear what the bass is doing.
    "YourSpace, MyTube"  I love the song idea, and I hope you’ll develop the track further.
    The first thing I’d do is replace the drums with a simple, rock-solid, fat drum track...
    Then I’d record another, different guitar part, Hi-pass filter both guitars, and hard pan ‘em...
    Filter and bump up the bass. Keep at it until it all works...
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    Re:Too Much Stuff 2013/03/05 12:17:27 (permalink)
    Missed the earlier mixes but both Bitflipper and Frank make valuable comments.

    Thanks for sharing.

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