vitalstates
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win8 processes
Hi I'm about to upgrade to x2 and win8 from xp and sonar 6 pro. In the past I've disabled a lot of windows processes as a lot have been unnecessary. Is this still the case in win8 and if so does anybody have a view on which ones to remove. The machine is a g860 on an MSI B75 motherboard and will not be connected to the network.
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/08 08:40:09
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There are some bits I disable: windows Media player sharing wireless config homegroup crap ,............... And: lots of stuff is now started from the task scheduler: defrag windows update hardware performance analysis,... MS user happiness services and reporting,.... What annoys me the most is not being able to disable/schedule the AV update time. Very stupid. Not networked is good for general use. And if your area is lightning prone: another way for electric jolts and crap to get into the computer. And the constant poling. But: connecting for updates and the online reference manuals,... Is good. I currently am using only the windows defender for AV.. I do not surf. But I do often have the CW forum open for learning. And now with the "free" videos I will have a browser open to view such. Sometimes I do use a netbook for this stuff when using sonar.
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/08 12:28:07
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/08 14:37:03
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Starting with Windows 7, most of those tweaks were no longer needed and could make things worse. Power management settings should still be done, but other than that, there are few that make sense anymore. Windows 8 is very similar to 7. Even in the Black Viper list for Windows 8 services, the only services he recommends disabling are those that are already Manual (meaning they won't even start unless called).
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/08 16:25:45
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Many of the reasons to not have to tweak is because computers got faster. So the impact of crap was less noticeable. But it is still good practice to stop unneeded services and tasks: home group listener//// Wireless config windows sharing network indexer Task manager: Defrag updates performance analysis and reporting. When first using w7 I had occassion to be working with sonar at 2 am when the defragger started running. Definitly noticed.
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/08 18:01:14
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Good thinking. Wireless networking shows up here a lot when people have crackles and shut-down of the audio engine. And if you use an SSD as your boot drive, you need to turn off defragging entirely for that drive.
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/09 00:38:27
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Lightning prone? That's just about the entire earth. Surge suppressors work as well as a good UPS. If you own thousands of dollars worth of stuff, then you need a power conditioner (not cheap but can pay for itself).
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/09 03:00:38
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thanks guys a little bit to think about. The machine doesn't have a network or internet connection and the ssd/defrag bit is interesting because it only has ssd. The machine has always had a mains conditioner so the lightning thing dpesn't apply, I think/hope. thanks again Ed
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/09 09:58:41
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If you install Windows on a machine with a SSD boot drive, defrag is turned off by default. It is only when you add a SSD drive to an existing machine that you need to check and turn defrag off for that drive. You may also have a separate TRIM utility program that you should run periodically.
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/09 11:27:46
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Does you surge protector have Cable, DSL, and Ethernet protection? A client recently got zapped through the phone line through the modem through the router. They have put in a full house surge device with all wires connected to it before all equipment.
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/09 11:31:38
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Not having a cnnected network wire or wireless device does not disable the services constantly polling the hardware for their existance. SSDs are not supposed to be included in the list of available devices in the windows defrag program.
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riojazz
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/09 12:08:54
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Correct about SSDs not showing as available to defrag, unless you have replaced a mechanical hard drive with an SSD. My mechanical drive died. The SSD I replaced it with had the defrag setting on, until I changed it. So, it seems it is possible, if not likely.
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/09 12:32:52
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Caution; From what I understand about SSD they should never be defraged. It may destroy them. Now I don't know this for a fact but before you do anything with an SSD find out if defrag is OK or not.
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/09 12:54:12
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riojazz Correct about SSDs not showing as available to defrag, unless you have replaced a mechanical hard drive with an SSD. My mechanical drive died. The SSD I replaced it with had the defrag setting on, until I changed it. So, it seems it is possible, if not likely. Thank you for this bit. Another example of howl MS managers are short-minded, almost never fully implement anything.
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/09 13:37:51
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For more information about defraging an SSD Go here. It is not recommended.
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riojazz
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Re:win8 processes
2013/01/09 14:53:02
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Thanks John. I think we are all in agreement on that point.
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