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Midi -Killing(or separating) bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
I have a midi track with drums and bass on the same track. It's messy to edit and there is no individual control for plugins/bussing etc. To get separate track control, I copied it to another instance of TTS1 and simply pulled the fader down on one and the drums down on the other and that will work. But, seeing as they are on separate channels, is there an elegant way to simply erase all the drums from one track, and the bass from the other? Or do I need to work around the mess (in PRV)
post edited by M_Glenn_M - 2013/01/10 19:51:41
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/09 16:53:38
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Are they on separate Midi Channels?
If so, in PRV, select Edit > Select > By Filter
Then select "None".
Now under All Non-Special Events, select the Midi channel you want to delete in BOTH Min & Max Channel
Click Ok followed by delete.
Do the same on your other Midi track but select the other Midi channel for selection & deletion
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/09 17:20:15
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Is there some other step I'm missing?
Such as highlighting the track or not?
I highlighted the track by selecting it's number,
Edit Select by filter
chose none
Non special events said 1 in min and 16 in max.
I set them both to 10 but did not touch any others
hit ok.
I see the track clips are now not highlighted (selected) in Track view
Hit delete but nothing happened.
It tried highlighting the track but of course delete killed the clips, not just the drums.
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 03:39:13
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Start by selecting one of your Midi tracks and make sure all note events within that track are selected - (do a "Click & Drag" across all the notes on the virtual keyboard within the prv)
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 10:53:38
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I did this, but after I select the channels to kill, and hit ok, all the data automatically becomes unselected.
Selecting it all after and hitting delete, kills them all of course.
We are talking X1d right? Maybe X2 is different?
Did you try the process? perhaps you dont have drums and bass on one clip?
Can I send you something?
Thanks for the help either way
Glenn
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 11:18:00
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If both instruments are in the same MIDI clip use Split Channel to Tracks.Cal.
This will separate the channels out onto two MIDI tracks. Select the the track and run the Cal from the Process menu.
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 12:57:44
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I found a "Split instrument track" (right click on track header) which made a new instrument track, but with nothing in it?
These are all Groove clip loops. does that make a diff?
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 13:17:34
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No Glenn. I'm talking about a CAL script. You access them under the process menu at the bottom, Run Cal. Or use Ctrl+F1.
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 13:57:22
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Thanks I found that.
-Selected the combined track
-Process/run CAL/split tracks
-window pops with " final destination =1"
-I set that to the track after the last one I had
-the process runs, adding:
1. a lot of extra tracks (15?)
2.one of those has a track with no bass. Nice.
3. the original combined track is mostly deleted (all but the first clip)
4. there is no track with the bass.
I'm still missing something I take it?
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 14:10:52
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M_Glenn_M
Thanks I found that.
-Selected the combined track
-Process/run CAL/split tracks
-window pops with " final destination =1"
-I set that to the track after the last one I had
-the process runs, adding:
1. a lot of extra tracks (15?)
2.one of those has a track with no bass. Nice.
3. the original combined track is mostly deleted (all but the first clip)
4. there is no track with the bass.
I'm still missing something I take it?
Be sure you look carefully at the tracks. The bass may not show if its to low on the MIDI grid. Right click on those tracks at the level control(scale) between the track and the track header and click Fit Content.
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 14:26:39
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Bingo! Hey thanks.
A very useful tool for me.
I still love those drum and bass combos in the DR880 and recording them separately was a pain not to mention the after-take tweaking to get them separated.
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 14:29:50
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 14:34:32
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I see I need to set them to the appropriate TTS1 channel to get them to play.
Learning learning.
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 14:49:46
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M_Glenn_M
I see I need to set them to the appropriate TTS1 channel to get them to play.
Learning learning.
If I were you I would use SD3 and SI bass. I think you will find those more pleasing. Then you'll want BFD2 LOL and Kontakt 5 and Bettery 3 and .......
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 15:07:11
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Lol, yes I've been playing with the SI instruments a bit and can see where that's headed. SAS- Samples Acquisition Syndrome.
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 19:32:52
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Also I am pretty sure if you simply save the track as a standard midi file then either open or import it, Sonar would create the 2 tracks.
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Re:Midi -Killing bass or drums from a drum/bass track?
2013/01/10 19:50:42
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Not sure how that works?
I am recording midi directly from the DR880 thru TTS-1 to an instrument track and it comes in with bass and drums mixed.
Are you saying there is a setup where it would come in as two tracks?
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