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HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
I have two identical busses. Both have the EXACT same settings. They both output to the same Master bus.
When I set a track's output to one bus, it is louder than when I set it to the other bus. How is this possible?? I've checked everything, literally...
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/09 19:09:51
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I know it's all identical and stuff but double check ... An aux on a track sending a single out to something extra or something like that
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/09 19:10:51
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Mooch4056
I know it's all identical and stuff but double check ... An aux on a track sending a single out to something extra or something like that
Just checked, nothing else. In fact, if I mute both busses, there is no sound.
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/09 19:19:49
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Nods head. I see.
Then I am afraid the only other explanation is its just as much as mystery of as how exactly did those Egyptians build those pyramids.
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/09 19:22:11
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Mooch4056
Nods head. I see.
Then I am afraid the only other explanation is its just as much as mystery of as how exactly did those Egyptians build those pyramids.
I concur. I've resorted to just lowering the volume of the louder bus to make it the same as the other... sigh.
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/09 19:32:56
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What FX are on the 2 busses, do the output gains indicate the same and are all settings the same?
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/09 20:31:07
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I encountered a similar problem a few months ago. Turned out that the PC on one of the busses was set to Post FX bin and the other was not.
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/09 21:16:56
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Just a thought. Are there any tiny "+" signs next to the volume and pan controls on all the tracks and buses?
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/09 22:14:31
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I would try flipping the phase on the busses and see what happens. It sounds like one of the busses may be getting some phase cancellation.
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/10 02:40:04
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I concour that there*must* be something different somewhere. Routing as suggested? Gain?
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/10 06:46:59
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No, I bet there's absolutely no difference between the two buses because I had the same issue (thought it was a very early version of Sonar and they were audio tracks, not buses). The two audio tracks were exactly the same. I contacted tech support only to find no solution. What did I do? I moved clips and other data on those tracks to two NEW tracks and deleted the old ones. Solved. It was a project I'd been working on for months, so I gathered some kind of error happened at one point and made the tracks' output volume different.
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/10 07:10:04
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So, I think the odds are very good that the OP is missing something. So, try verifying the gain nobs (are they both the same?). The sends to the busses (are they the same?). Disable all FX using the FX bypass button on the control bar (any difference?).
It's possible that you have found a repeatable bug, but just so extremely unlikely. If I had to guess, I'd think there was some chance you had the focus on a control on one of the busses and spun your scroll wheel trying to navigate to another track. You noticed no change in your GUI, but now your busses didn't match.
Another tip, if you busses are indeed identical and without any FX that introduce random variables, you should be able to flip the phase of one of the two and have them cancel 100% to -inf type silence. If you have FX that generate randomness on the two channels (I think console emulators may introduce this randomness preventing perfect cancellation after the phase flip), then the result of the phase flip will be only the differences. You could then bounce them to a new track and normalize to get a level to hear the difference.
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/10 07:22:24
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I'm amazed posters here don't realize how easy it is to check the two buses are exactly the same, and how easy it is to fix the problem.
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/10 08:22:21
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I have had this issue as well with both tracks and busses. Finally moved clips and deleted the tracks to "fix" the problem.
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/10 08:26:05
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@Bob
Have you tired inserting 2 completely brand new busses, route your track to them one at a time & checked again?
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/10 08:51:16
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Nods head. I see.
Then I am afraid the only other explanation is its just as much as mystery of as how exactly did those Egyptians build those pyramids.
I concur. I've resorted to just lowering the volume of the louder bus to make it the same as the other... sigh.
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/10 09:19:19
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What are the inputs you're using? Are they stereo or mono?
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Re:HELP! Two identical busses, but one's louder than the other?
2013/01/11 00:23:36
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Are there any tiny "+" signs next to the volume and pan controls on all the tracks and buses?
Maybe I was a bit cryptic earlier. I was alluding to the possibility that the OP may have unwittingly switched to "Offset Mode" by accidentally hitting the "O" key. It accounts for a lot of cases of unexpected volume decrease.
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