Sound problem

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2013/01/18 03:25:09 (permalink)

Sound problem

Hello all.
I have a problem with sound. And as I have had this problem from day one, I have Sonar 8 producer (64 bit version) and although when I import an audio file and can see the waveform, I hear nothing. The same happens when I try to record midi from my keyboard. I see the signal is getting  through, it even records as I can see these actions happening on screen, but no matter what I do I cant hear a peep. I have asio4all drivers installed and running, and have checked midi in and midi out in the ‘midi. Options  tile.
I hear everything else on my puter., i.e. songs. Audio tracks, warning beeps. Start-up tones etc. I still have Mixcraft 6 recording studio on my puter and that works just fine. But I still hear sod all on sonar 8. I have even tried re-installing sonar using the 32 bit option. Still nothing.
I have looked at all the tutorials, many forum threads and also various YouTube vids so I am now beginning to wonder if my puter set up (which can be seen below) and Sonar 8 producer are incompatible.
In other words. I am running around in circles, getting nowhere apart from disillusionville. 
Can anyone help please??
Thanks
Slaphead

Acer G5900. 8GB memory:  Win7 Pro 64 bit;  Intel Core i5 650;  Realtek High Def Soundcard;  StudioMix (peavey) Mixing desk used with midi-inline interface-USB lead;  M-Audio Keystudio midi keyboard usb;  all run through a Sherwood Stereo Amplifier;  Various Guitars/mics.  Sonar X2 Studio.
 
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    Kalle Rantaaho
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    Re:Sound problem 2013/01/18 03:45:26 (permalink)
    Some more info/clarification needed:
    -By audio tracks/songs that you can hear, do you mean ones recorded by you in SONAR or listening to music in WMP?

    If you can record normally, some of the following is unnecessary/obvious, but anyway...:

    -What have you selected as the record/playback timing master in" Options" 
    -Have you selected the ASIO4ALL as the I/O drivers?
    -What format is the imported audio and what is its track output?
    -You say you see the waveform, but hear nothing, ok, but does the level meter move when you play it back?
    - What soft synth have you tried and how are you inserting it?

    (You have a nice set of gear. I strongly recommend getting a decent audio interface. They're not expensive.)

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    SLAPHEAD
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    Re:Sound problem 2013/01/18 07:07:27 (permalink)
    Hi Rantaaho.
     Thanks for responding.
     
    I am new to sonar so I haven’t recorded anything yet, but I imported a .wav file. Which played no prob in WMP and also played ok when i tried this action with Mixcraft6. but remains silent  when I hit the play button in sonar8.

    When I say I recorded I meant that I played a few notes on my midi keyboard and although I couldn’t hear anything as I played. I could see notes appear and stay and save on the track view. Apologies for being vague.

    The record timing master in ‘Options’ is set to   ‘ASIO4ALL v2 Audio Front Mic Input 1’
    Playback Timing  Master is set to  ‘ASIO4ALL v2 HD Audio output 1’

    ASIO4ALL v2 Audio Front is selected once in the ‘Input’ Drivers Tab
    ASIO4ALL v2 HD Audio out is selected 3 times in the ‘Output’ Drivers Tab

     
    The format of the imported audio is .wav
     
    The level meter moves as it should
     
    As for which soft synth I used, it was before I re-installed Sonar8 and I honestly don’t remember which, I just picked one at random to see what would unfold. Sorry bout that.
     
    I have also disconnected the StudioMix  mixing desk prio to re-installation whilst this problem persists if only to cut down the variables and may re-connect it when this  audio problem is sorted.
     
    Also  my keyboard is connected directly into the puter soundcard. Which, as I say, seems to work fine with the Mixcraft6 programme. Hence my frustration lol
     
    If it helps I could provide screenshots of any settings if needed.
     
    Thanks

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    Re:Sound problem 2013/01/18 08:29:33 (permalink)
    You should get an audio interface besides the Realtek. Get one that has native ASIO drivers and ditch ASIO4ALL. 

    Dave
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    Re:Sound problem 2013/01/18 09:21:27 (permalink)
    Hello Daveny5
    Ok I will try that. Do I need to get a particular make and model of interface or will any with pre-installed asio do?
    Thanks 

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    Re:Sound problem 2013/01/29 08:19:55 (permalink)
    Hi All.
    Well. I have acquired an 'M-Box 2 Mini' interface with a copy of Pro-Tools LE which presumably has all the drivers I need. 
    No way do I want Pro-tools on my puter but I'm hopeing I can use the MBox 2 Mini with Sonar 8 and the StudioMix Mixing Desk.
    Is this possible? and if so. looking at the limited inputs/outputs of the MBox unit, what is the best way to connect all this stuff correctly? Please? Pretty Please??
    (Please bare-in-mind that I am a complete pre-noob noob with Sonar8 and all the hardware that goes with it. so please be gentle with me)

    I-thank-you.
    (Bows lowly then leaves the stage)

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    Re:Sound problem 2013/01/29 08:59:27 (permalink)
    Follow the instructions that came with the M-Box 2 Mini. In Sonar, go to the Help Menu-Contents and read the Getting Started section. 

    Dave
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    Instruments: SL-880 Keyboard controller, Korg 05R/W, Korg N1R, KORG Wavestation EX
    Axes: Fender Stratocaster, Line6 Variax 300, Ovation Acoustic, Takamine Nylon Acoustic, Behringer GX212 amp, Shure SM-58 mic, Rode NT1 condenser mic.
    Outboard: Mackie 1402-VLZ mixer, TC Helicon VoiceLive 2, Digitech Vocalist WS EX, PODXTLive, various stompboxes and stuff. 
    Controllers: Korg nanoKONTROL, Wacom Bamboo Touchpad
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    Re:Sound problem 2013/01/29 09:40:42 (permalink)
    I would go to MAudios site for the current driver

    If it dont show it there you will need to go to AVIDs site for it.

    Are all your routing set right on Tracks, Busses, Master and Main outs?




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    Re:Sound problem 2013/01/29 09:42:49 (permalink)
    ie...

    Tracks I/O are output to Buss
    Buss I/O are output to Master
    Master I/O is output to Main
    Main I.O is output to your sound card?


    MIKE

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    Re:Sound problem 2013/01/29 12:00:20 (permalink)
    Thanks for the advice guys, Ill do as you say. 
    Many Thanks 

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    Re:Sound problem 2013/01/29 12:13:48 (permalink)
    You need to insert a soft synth and set the midi tracks output to it to hear any sound with midi. Try the TTS-1 which is an easy to use 16 channel GM module. 
    As mentioned already, Sonar or any DAW takes a bit of reading the tutorials before you can get started. There are just too many steps to have us repeat what is already clearly documented. 

    Spend a couple of days reading the help files and when you get stuck we can get you going again. Good luck, And good move on getting an audio interface that is more important than the software. 


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    Re:Sound problem 2013/02/04 11:00:18 (permalink)
    UPDATE.
                                                     I now have sound YeeHaaa   Oh Happy Day 


    I did as I was told and ditched the asio4all completely. disconnected then reconnected everything and for the time being I also ditched the StudioMix mixing desk as it seemed to be confusing the issue. 
    As for them there tutorial thingy's. Bloody good them aint they? lol
    Anyway. no more running before I can toddle, reading then re-reading is the order of the day.
    Many Many Thanks guys for your advice and patience, you saved this balloon-head from packing it all in and taking up knitting.


    Stay safe y'all 



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    Re:Sound problem 2013/02/04 13:31:34 (permalink)
    WTG!!!

    Go have fun and make some music  Woot Woot  


    MIKE

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