Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks?

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2013/01/18 13:36:40 (permalink)

Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks?

Greets!
how do you take 20 + midi tracks with clips and make 1 MIDI clip?
(not trying to bounce the audio)
 
 
 

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    leemac
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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/18 16:13:06 (permalink)
    You can select all clips in the track window and select 'Bounce to clips' from the clips menu.

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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/18 18:10:30 (permalink)
    I don't think that will work - that will simply convert all the separate clips in one track to one lon contiguous clip in the same track - it won't create one, massive Midi track with all Midi events combined.

    To the OP: what exactly are you trying to do here? What happens if you have an even occurring on the same note/time etc? Are all events on the same Midi channel?

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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 11:16:55 (permalink)
    select all> bounce to clip does not wok.
    the workaround so far is to drag each midi clip to one track. :(
    it's not a matter of conflicting notes. It's a bunch of midi clips on 100 different tracks that need to be moved to one single track.
    MIDI looks like this:

    track1 _
    track2    _
    track3       _

    needs to look like this:

    Track1 _ _ _
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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 11:56:47 (permalink)
    What about File>Export>Midi then re-import to project.

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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 12:01:42 (permalink)
    Would bounce to track work?

    Select all the tracks > in the track view menu select Tracks > Bounce to track

    Just a shot in the dark. I thought bounce to clip would have been the way to do it but I guess that's for takes within a track. 
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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 12:51:06 (permalink)
    I think what you're doing is the only solution.

    You can't do a bounce to track without audio data, and even trying to fool sonar into thinking it is audio by dragging the Midi to an audio track doesn't work. I just tried it.

    I don't even think there's a CAL script that could do it

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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 12:58:37 (permalink)
    What about copying all and pasting to one track? Is it even possible, could it work? Then, if the pasting creates layers, you can bounce those to clips (???) 

    Just out of the sleeve...not sure what I've overlooked...


    EDIT: Just tried it with three MIDI tracks with continuing, not overlapping material. Copied all, pasted to one track > resulting one MIDI clip.

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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 13:08:01 (permalink)
    Which is basically what he's doing by dragging one clip on top of an existing one.

    You just have to make sure you've got "Blend Old and New" checked in the Paste Special dialog

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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 13:10:45 (permalink)
    @Jonesey... ugh. I was hoping I had a decent grasp of the Bounce stuff and how to combine midi clips/tracks. Gonna have to read more. The bleeping manual is a mess. The 2000 pages could be easily consolidated down to a thousand if they just explained things thoroughly the first time (after the tuts). Instead there is massive duplication but if you don't read every single entry on every single aspect you miss small but imperative tidbits. 

    ...

    Sorry... just getting a little frustrated at how long this is taking. Doesn't help a bunch of the stuff doesn't work the way it's described if it works at all.

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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 13:16:13 (permalink)
    Beep, I agree with you.

    The manual is simply not meant for bedtime reading, it's simply so sterile with no real world examples and as you say, is full of cross-referencing & duplication, but with a book like Scott's Sonar Power book, you can take it anywhere you want and read it like you would a novel.


    I DO find the online help useful at times when I just want to check or look up something, I think this is it's best application.

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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 13:22:09 (permalink)
    I did learn a massive amount from Scott's X1 Power but there were some more in depth things kind of left out that I needed to know (sorry Scott... it is still the greatest tut I've come across so far). Also there are so many new things in X2 that obviously aren't included and X2 power is yet to be released. Sadly I don't think I'll be able to afford it right away anyway so I'll just have to muddle through the manual. It is going a lot quicker now. It's all the testing and note taking that's slowing things down. Totally worth it though.

    I'll stop whining now. ;-)
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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 13:26:31 (permalink)
    And here's a perfect example. I've probably read about 5 different entries on the Snap module so far and just now on page 502 I've learned how to turn off the blasted Smart Grid thingy that changes the snap resolution based on the Zoom resolution. I didn't even know that it was called Smart Grid until this point and it is buried under a pile of other stuff in the Control Bar section.

    If anyone is curious you turn off the Smart Grip by right clicking the Snap Resolution dropdown in the Snap Module and uncheck Smart Grid. 
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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 13:29:34 (permalink)
    Oh and it doesn't actually SAY where to change it. It is inferred and I had to poke around until I found it. Blern!
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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 13:29:45 (permalink)
    Bristol_Jonesey


    Which is basically what he's doing by dragging one clip on top of an existing one.

    You just have to make sure you've got "Blend Old and New" checked in the Paste Special dialog
    No. He clearly shows in post # 4 that there is no overlapping material. If those 100+ midi tracks are all there is in the project, all he needs to do is Ctrl+A > (Create new MIDI track) Ctrl+V / Paste on one track.
    Three or four clicks and the job is done. NOTE: I'm using 8.5, but I'm sure it's the same in X.x



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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 13:37:03 (permalink)
    Doh.

    'Paste to One Track' option in Paste Special.

    You're right Kalle. It's been a LONG time since I used that function.

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    Re:Bounce to clip - multiple MIDI tracks? 2013/01/19 18:04:22 (permalink)
    Listen to Rantahu above. Select all, copy, then paste to one track (make sure you select "Paste to one track". Ted
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