Save and restore nightmare

I don't mean to start one of those sad spammer threads, but I'm experiencing quite some problems with project save and restore in X2a, which become very frustrating:

• Project occasionally does not load for no obvious reason. When opened in SAVE mode with SHIFT key option and plug-in loading prompts are all answered with "YES", the projects opens (but not with "Yes to All"). When saved again, regular project open functionality works ...
• Sonar hangs when saving project. It writes only 22KB files (of ~12 MB), hangs and never returns (not responding until killed and DAW is rebooted). This is very frustrating as I lost a number of MIDI e-drum takes several times already.

My project is of moderate size (~35 tracks at the moment, ~10 soft synths & samplers, needs about 3.9 GB of 32 RAM GB available). I'm getting afraid to push the save button ... but I have to ...
 
Anybody seeing anything similar? Any helpful suggestions?
 
This is a new DAW, dedicated only to the studio, no connection to LAN, etc. So the DAW shouldn't be the issue. And 8 takes of 16 beats of MIDI e-drumming should not be a problem, either ...
 
 

Thanks dan le,

I'll give this a try tomorrow. I just left the studio after 3 more crashes in 2 hours.

Additional observations were: it seems to be better if I don't record in loop mode using take lanes (at least no crashes while saving straight after recording) but then 3 crashes while editing in piano roll view (and with increasing number of edits piano roll got slower and slower ...)

Hi,

no freebies or shareware
currently applied plug-ins are only Sonitus, IK, ProChannel
soft synths are 3 instances of dimension pro, 4x kontakt 5, 1x true pianos, 1x SI bass

it's win7 64bit home, not pro

i use 2 interfaces, VS-700 + Octa-Capture synced via VS EXPAND using latest drivers, and OctoPre synced via ADAT

what would be an easy way to check for bad memory or disk errors?

it's win7 64bit home, not pro

Then you are only able to use 16GB of your 32 GB of memory. Windows 7 Home only uses up to 16GB of memory. Windows 7 Pro uses up to 192GB. Windows 8 Pro uses up to 512 GB.


I would recommend upgrading to Windows 8 Pro now while its only $40 until 1/31/13. Then it goes up a lot. 

daveny5

it's win7 64bit home, not pro

Then you are only able to use 16GB of your 32 GB of memory. Windows 7 Home only uses up to 16GB of memory. Windows 7 Pro uses up to 192GB. Windows 8 Pro uses up to 512 GB.

Sorry, the late hour and the grump from the crashes fogged my head ...
 
I'm on win7 64 bit professional. I fixed my earlier post. I had the machine build by a pro outfit; they wouldn't have installed the 32 GB if I could only use 16, but to be honest I never really cared which version it was ...
 
 

The last session was probably the worst in my Sonar history with 8 crashes that required a reboot in less than one hour

Since I've gone from zero problems to zero productivity basically over night, I don't want to believe it's the PC. Something is wrong with that particular project as I had no stability issues the entire month before, since X2a was released (I reckon it as about 3 crashes total)

Hence, I decided to rebuild the project with creating templates, importing those to a new project and then dragging clips over ... hmmm, didn't get very far as the original project seems to be seriously screwed (crashes after save, after exporting OMF, when importing track templates which are functional in other projects, and most interestingly when freezing an IK soft synth)

I have not 100% identified the problem yet, but I have a strong su****ion that it's BitBridge that's causing all the troubles because in my working projects it was all audio tracks, 64 bit FX, 64 bit synths. This time I need the mellotron sounds that come with IK SampleTron and (I believe that) troubles started after introducing 3 instances of the 32 bit soft synth ... and there is no easy way out, either. The sounds are quite unique, there's no 64 bit version, I can't even freeze and remove temporarily (freezing causes crash) ...

Any suggestions / workarounds? Would J-Brigde be any better?