How to adjust volume for CD

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Per Lindhof
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2013/01/23 16:41:19 (permalink)

How to adjust volume for CD

Dear all
I record classical guitar on a stereo track in LE 8.5 - no more no less. I use 24/44.1

As I've now learned that I shouldn't set my pre amp gain so the peaks come close to 0 db as I learned years ago (analog way of thinking) I have lowered my input volume so the peaks hit -6db. Average signal is around -18db to -12db, which is considered a rule of thumb.
The result is more headroom and a very clear signal.

BUT... I also get a lower volume when I burn the final track down to a CD and listen to it on my HI-FI. I have to turn the volume button up a bit more.

How do I increase the volume on the exported track? Normalization? Just volume button or...?

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    RobertB
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    Re:How to adjust volume for CD 2013/01/23 22:39:28 (permalink)
    As a general rule, our mixes will not be as loud as commercial releases.
    However, there are some things you can do.
    You definitely want to watch those peak levels to avoid digital clipping. But perceived volume comes from RMS levels.
    Judicious use of compression can help.
    I'm not sure what 8.5LE came with, but you can right click the FX bin of your audio track to see if you have the Cakewalk compressor.
    If not, this is a good place to start:
    http://www.store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=35-CWF11.02-10E

    This is a free download of some basic effects that were included with many Sonar packages.
    Sonar 8.5LE supports third party VST plugins, ranging from free to quite expensive.
    If nothing else, get VoxengoSPAN. Plug it into the FX bin of your master bus. It doesn't affect your volume, but it is a great tool for keeping an eye on your final output.
    You can try normalization. Some like it. I don't. Be aware that normalizing will permanently alter your original file, and you can't go back.
    Experiment with some limiters and compressors.
    You have the right idea on your incoming signal. Keep that clean. If you start with a good signal, you have a lot more room for manipulation.
    When it's all said and done, you may still want to tweak the volume knob, just not as much.

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    Re:How to adjust volume for CD 2013/01/24 08:16:35 (permalink)
    As well as looking into compression, you might want to look into using mid/side recording technique for recording classical guitar (instead of stereo). Check out the techniques section on this forum for some guidance on MS recording.  It can add significantly to the 'fullness' of the sound.
     
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    Re:How to adjust volume for CD 2013/01/24 14:41:17 (permalink)

    Thanks a lot for the serious feedback...

    I'll try them all.
    My "problem" is probably within a 3db range, so maybe a touch of normalization (on a backed up track) will do, or just a slight volume.
    I guess I can just add a few db on the volume fader in Sonar, or am I wrong?

    gcolbert:

    "Instead of stereo"... Don't you consider MS a stereo technique?
    It's got a very good reputation and I've tried it, but not with so great results. Maybe it needs a second chance.

    Regards
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    jim drea
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    Re:How to adjust volume for CD 2013/02/02 20:17:25 (permalink)
    hi jim hear can anyone help im useing windows7 my effects are greyed out can you advise
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    Re:How to adjust volume for CD 2013/02/03 00:00:32 (permalink)
    Welcome to the forum, Jim.
    It would have been better if you would have started your own thread, since your problem has nothing to do with adjusting the volume of CDs.
    But you're here; where are the effects grayed out at? When you right-click in a track's effects (FX) bin?

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