Outside my wheelhouse...

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2013/01/24 21:32:02 (permalink)

Outside my wheelhouse...

ok so my GF likes to watch The Voice and Idol. Ok I like The Voice more then Idol and she asked me if I could make a POP song because of something on of the judges said about trying stuff outside your wheelhouse. So im all like, but Babe I dont have all that crazy keyboard **** POP stars use. Shes like you freakin slacker! (much worse then that, for real, for real), and bought me Alchemy 1.5. crazy woman!!!http://www.camelaudio.com/Alchemy.php 
ok so I can see where this is going, no sleep for the wicked. I am not a great singer, but I figure V-vocals will help. Im not good at writting POP for sure, but Im not opposed to trying something new( aka outside my wheelhouse). So here it is, I was late the other day picking up my daughter, who lives with her mom ATM. I realised after finally getting there I was way more upset about being late then she was and she was totally cool about it. I tried to generalise the lyrics to fit for just about anyone being late, and the other person being totally cool about it cause THATS LIFE MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS!
 
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http://www.reverbnation.com/jasonhanerfeld/song/15969979-she-waits
 
 
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    jamesg1213
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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/25 04:44:34 (permalink)
    Too much guitar for pop Jason, you'd have to cut that solo  Quite a cool song though, your vocals have a 'Men at Work' vibe  now and then.

     
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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/25 06:20:10 (permalink)
    lol I cant cut the guitars, pop will just have to lower its standards to my guitaring  hahaha! Thanks for the Men at Work ref, I liked them alot back then. I was one of the first guitar players in my hood to learn  "who can it be now"

    Thanks for listening!
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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/25 08:55:41 (permalink)
    It sounds like Men at Work would do.

    Excellent work! Thanks for sharing!

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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/25 14:16:00 (permalink)
    I like this song very much, and I, too, hear the Men At Work in your voice.  Even pop music can have its rules broken from time to time, so I say you did an excellent job.

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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/25 18:32:55 (permalink)
    nice stuff man! - Shawn

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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/25 22:38:27 (permalink)
    Hey...very 80s sound to this and some nice changes...enjoyed the listen :)

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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/25 23:02:40 (permalink)
    Cool tune and arrangement.  I would bring the vocals more upfront.  I was not wild about the guitar solo or the tone, I didn't think it fit the otherwise nice vibe.

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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/25 23:34:37 (permalink)
    Alchemy's website seems to be infected with malware. I think you did an amazing job with this.

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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/26 09:53:03 (permalink)
    Thanks everyone!
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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/26 12:22:36 (permalink)
    Definitely a Men at Work vibe.

    Nice not overly mad about the pan of the drums, bit wide on the Hat for me but it is all down to one own personal taste.

    Thanks for sharing

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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/28 02:12:15 (permalink)
    Hey, Jason,
     
    Very cool, well written song with nice playing and great vocals!
     
    I agree with Wookie about the drums being panned a bit too wide, so the cymbals seem "outside the band", to the left and right, but that's an easy fix, or possibly what you intended.
     
    Either way, great song, very nice work!
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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/28 21:00:20 (permalink)
    well the Drums were panned that way from EZ drummer, but I think I have bleeding turned off. Great point though because Ill pay more attention to that from now on.
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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/29 14:08:56 (permalink)
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    well the Drums were panned that way from EZ drummer, but I think I have bleeding turned off. Great point though because Ill pay more attention to that from now on.

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    2. This usual means they need to be tinkered with to fit the mix. 


    I assume (which is always dangerous) that you can reverse the PAN of the drum kit. This current song appears you have the PAN configured for one of the two following options.  (Neither of which is right or wrong )

    1. From the perspective of a right handed drummer i.e. Hats to his left Snare toms running left to right etc.

    2. From the perspective of the audience viewing a left handed drummer. i.e. Hats to their left Snare toms running left to right etc.


    On the subject of drum panning I always like to contract the sound stage around the kit as would be more natural sounding but let the ambient mikes have a wider PAN.  Unless I want that massive sound field of drums and percussion. 


    The other thing to decided is whether your drummer is left or right handed.

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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/01/29 14:59:57 (permalink)
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    Back on topic.
    I kinda like this song. Just drop the pop reference IMO. It's just a nice song. Almost catchy on first listen.
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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/02/03 12:01:02 (permalink)
    From the perspective of the audience viewing a left handed drummer. i.e. Hats to their left Snare toms running left to right etc.
     
    lol when I think about this it hurts my brain, because yes I always approch the kit as a right handed drummer because when Im actually behind a real kit, thats how I play it. To someone listening in the audiance the HHats are on their right side with the toms running from right to left.
    How ****ed up is this? So when recording should I be a left handed drummer for the audiences sake or keep doing what Im doing and giving you a right handed drummers perspective?
    I never gave this a moments thought ever... until now!
    post edited by BigJGTR - 2013/02/03 12:03:23
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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/02/03 13:57:46 (permalink)
    Love it! Great job, although I agree with a previous comment that the vocals should be a bit more up front (and maybe drier) to fit in with current pop song production (but what do I know?).

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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/02/03 14:03:34 (permalink)
     Really cool tune, love the vox and overall production. Love the fast licks in the solo, but to be honest some of the bends sound a bit off to me.

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    Re:Outside my wheelhouse... 2013/02/07 21:34:53 (permalink)
             Agreed about the bends, and my excuse is; "its that damned floating temelo system..." lol ive played so long on Custom Gibsons I never worried about it. Now im playing more with my Schecter Synistar with the floating temelo and once in a while I bend my 10s hard enuff make them sound a bit off. I have to be honest about my playing now, if I had gone back to redo that solo it would have been different. What if I didnt like that, then do it again, hated it do it again, no wait that note wasnt as climatic... and so on and so on. I liked almost every part of the solo, so i kept it as is.  I have learned to let go these days, I guess I can just call that the "indy" guitar part of the solo
    post edited by BigJGTR - 2013/02/07 21:36:09
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