JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions...

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JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions...

First, other than wages can anyone tell me the difference (other than the price) between the JTV-69 and the JTV-69 USA. One is 1399 the other is 3899. That is a lotta dadgum money. So, is it worth the difference?
 
Then the Roland ready strats... You got the VG-99 synth unit for 1499 and the G-5 Strat for 1299 (G-5A USA for 1899) then I m about where the JTV American Variaxis priced. It can play in different tunings and model a Strat/Tele/humbuckers/acoustics, maybe more without the synth. I assue with the synth I can do far more that with the Variax and spend about the same as the JTV American... a little more I guess...
 
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Do you have any ideas on where the price break is in all this... I mean at what model or point do you have diminishing returns? What is the best bang for buck without settling for a POS?
 
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    jbow
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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/01/27 19:40:11 (permalink)
    No one has any experience with these?

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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/01/27 19:45:57 (permalink)
    Bapsi has one a them weird lookin Variax thingys...the one that looks like the Jetsons.  Not the pretty Les Paul style.  I've got a tobacco sunburst original Variax (the one that has the breakout box nobody liked) and it's quite fun. 
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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/01/27 20:07:51 (permalink)
    Do you think there is much (or anything) to be gained from a Roland Ready Strat and a Roland synth box? I assume I would have access to a number of sounds only limited by the number of synths I could control with the Strat.... but, does the JTV have a midi out too? As far as the onboard sounds I think I would be prefecty happy with the JTV. I want one... but I also want to know if there is any real difference between the 3800 dollar JTV and the 1299 JTV, I can change the neck if I need to.

    Thanks for the reply olpal, I've talked to Bapu about it before but I can't remember what he said or if I even asked about the difference between the 3800 and the 1300 models.

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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/01/27 20:19:18 (permalink)
    Two diff animals Julien. Variax vs. Roland.

    WRT to 69 vs USA 69, the 69 is manufactured in Korea so if you're a finicky guitarist then teh Korean may not meet your standards. For an occasional tracking session I'm happy with the Korean model. YMMV.

    The Roland is more for triggering synth sounds (of course you could also trigger guitar samples by myolpal will say "that's jes dang wrong"). 

    So it seems to me you gotta decide what you want between the two (Line 6 vs Roland). Or, are you looking to get both but just can't decide between the various models?
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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/01/27 20:52:18 (permalink)
    I am leaning WAY toward the Variax and the Korean thing does not bother me in the least as long as it has the same electronics.

    Does the Variax also have a midi out or does it just play it's sounds? I think I will be really happy with it. NO WAY I could buy both. I woud have a REALLY hard time paying 3800 bucks for the American Variax... I cannot see how it could possibly be that much better.

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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/01/27 20:58:01 (permalink)

    post edited by zungle - 2013/02/25 23:22:59
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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/01/27 21:12:08 (permalink)
    I'm happy with my Korean version but I'm not all that discerning when it comes to an electric 6-string guitar (given the frequency that I actually play one).
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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/01/27 22:01:23 (permalink)
    This is my Variax (really) - It's nickname is the Raspberry Twist.  It also has passive pickups from Bare Knuckle Pickups (Crawlers).


     
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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/01/27 22:02:35 (permalink)
    Note that it's also the ONLY guitar I have left (there's another custom being built, but it's been on hold for a few years now).  *Sigh...*

     
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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/02/18 23:50:40 (permalink)
    I seen this thread a while ago, and wanted to post but couldn't.

    the VG99 is an awesome piece of kit. I have so much to say about it.  but I will first say "I LOVE IT"
    you can use a regular guitar as well.  but a gk3 or roland ready strat will make so much better. ( a real amp and guitar is still better though)
    you record the clean guitar out for re-amping. 
    lay down dome midi info (technique and setting needs tweaking somtimes)
    change tunings with a little tweaking.
    dual amps dual guitars.. oh i just remembered a link let me find it.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ8EyAWVRgU&list=PL8C5323CCB88F134E&index=20 - part 1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwk36KKmF3A&list=PL8C5323CCB88F134E    - part 2

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPYsfsEbi5Q&list=PL8C5323CCB88F134E   - part 3

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q02iULfDcC8&list=PL8C5323CCB88F134E   part 4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqN4ISdSdO4&list=PL8C5323CCB88F134E    part 5



    nothing beats a real amp and the rest but the VG99 is sooooooooo convenient.  

    good luck 

    sorry for bumping an old thread.
    my .02 worth
    all the best,
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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/02/19 12:43:19 (permalink)
     OK here is my take on these guitars.

     Having bought a Korean JTV69 before the Roland guitar came out I didn't really ever test the JTV against the Roland, but after I have played the JTV69 I think I can give you a good idea of the differences.

     The JTV69USA is a better made guitar  than the JTV69 but not enough IMO to justify the difference in the cost. You still get a graphite nut,locking tuners and decent pickups. Medium jumbo frets and I think a 12 radius neck.

     Line 6 had some issues early in production with some of the necks on the JTV69s. Mainly the high E string was slipping off the frets on the edge due to the way they had finished the frets. They have since corrected this issue. Roland got around all of this buy selling you a strat with their electronics in it,so anything you can put on a strat you can basically put on it.

     The neck pocket on the JTV 69 will accept a strat neck and some players who didn't like the JTV neck have put warmoths and Mighty mite necks on. I'm sure you could fit a Carvin neck on as well . I have not personally had the high E string issue, but I have considered replacing the neck because it is a few mm thicker than a strat neck. Some people like the neck...some people don't. FWIW the neck on the USA model is the same dimensions.

     You don't need an outboard box to play the JTV 69 sounds. It has both a digital hookup for the HD500,400,300 and a regular guitar jack. The JTV is made like Bapu said more for a guitarist who doesn't want to carry tons of guitars around.

      Line 6 is soon to release a free "HD" upgrade to all Variax owners. They constantly upgrade their firmware and sounds. The JTV can play from its own pickups just like any guitar or it can play the JTV sounds which are awesome. You can put in a Seymour Duncan or an EMG if you don't like the way the pickups sound, but I have no problem with them.( you will void the warranty if you start tampering though) The guitar emulations are spot on and they let you modify a set of custom sounds. You can make up your own models with whatever you want. One nice thing is that if your electronics go out you still have a decent guitar to play on stage.

     Remember that nice Shecter I was trying to convince myself to keep? I couldn't justify it. The Variax can rock it right out of the water when adjusted properly.

     If you add the other stuff that works with the variax, like the HD series boxes and the DT series amps it is hard to go wrong with any guitar sound you can imagine.

      The Roland guitar  looks like a very nice setup. I have heard it played on youtube and it is also a worthy contender  Since I already have a Roland synth there really isn't much of a point in me trying to get synth sounds from my guitars. Some real nerd gear heads are going both routes and adding a GR55 pickup to their variaxes....I think that's getting a little crazy but you can do that if you want.

     All in all I am very happy with my JTV69. The new 89 looks to be killer for metal players as it comes with a whammy and some improvements for metal playing techniques.The 59 is like a gibson with e 241/2" neck length. It looks a little more complicated to operate with a different switch configuration...maybe someone else can comment on that.

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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/02/19 16:58:46 (permalink)
    I've been looking at those Sonuus audio-to-MIDI converters.
    I've seen several mentions of them through a search (a search that worked!!) here, but all the posts were a few years old.
    They have one that claims to have ASIO drivers that won't interfere with other ASIO-enabled devices.
    could be an expensive paperwight... or an expensive toy.

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    Re:JTV Variax/Roland ready Strat... questions... 2013/02/19 19:04:56 (permalink)
    Thanks again... I think I woud REALLY love either but the JTV seems a little more user friendly. I have used and liked Line6 products for years. I've a POD II, a Toneport UX2, and a Flextone III Plus. Maybe it is time to move up a bit with the JTV and I bet I would realy love it with a DT series amp. I don't think I would spring for a big floorboard. It is always something... I need to win the lottery.

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