Please, Please Roland save Sibelius from AVID and link it to Sonar :-)

Avid and Sibleius is one matter, and on the other hand, I believe Steinberg hired the UK [ex] Sibelius team for their research & developement team in London just before christmas, or maybe i just misread that.

Garry

If I want to work with midi I’ll enter the data freehand in the event list.

I am guessing you do not work with midi all that much. You could record audio by manually writing in each sample value too, but I am assuming you probably prefer to have that process computer-automated to improve your workflow. I could live without the ability to record sound into Sonar at all, but I am not proposing that capability be dropped.


I came to Cakewalk software from early versions of CSound, and I have abandoned the flexibility and power of that program for the convenience of using a DAW. For whatever reason, Cakewalk does not seem to be interested in making it easy for people who want an efficient way to convert notation into midi. I suspect such people are a very small minority of users compared to those who want to string together snippets of other people's songs or repeat inane musical phrases ad nauseum.


Development decisions at Cakewalk are not going to be much influenced by a small number of people venting their frustration on this or any other forum. 

slartabartfast

If I want to work with midi I’ll enter the data freehand in the event list.

I am guessing you do not work with midi all that much. You could record audio by manually writing in each sample value too, but I am assuming you probably prefer to have that process computer-automated to improve your workflow. I could live without the ability to record sound into Sonar at all, but I am not proposing that capability be dropped.


I came to Cakewalk software from early versions of CSound, and I have abandoned the flexibility and power of that program for the convenience of using a DAW. For whatever reason, Cakewalk does not seem to be interested in making it easy for people who want an efficient way to convert notation into midi. I suspect such people are a very small minority of users compared to those who want to string together snippets of other people's songs or repeat inane musical phrases ad nauseum.


Development decisions at Cakewalk are not going to be much influenced by a small number of people venting their frustration on this or any other forum. 

I don't want to poop on how anyone makes music.
 
I'm cool with traditional audio, MIDI, step entry, looped audio & MIDI, REX, samples, interactive matrix composition & performance, chord / melody generation, and piano roll / drum editor / event list / score based composition and editing.  Flexibility is key and the end result is what matters.
 
What I don't want to see is any of this funtionality get worse with successive releases.
 
** cough cough ** s t  a ff v  iew ** cough cough **
 
Sonar is so close to having it all.

adding my 2 cents for the umpteenth time....

1)  I like to create a lead sheet in Sonar when composing a song.  And Sonar works fine for that until...You change keys and you can't transpose the chords.  How simple and silly is that?

2) Composing a piece with lots of instruments (jazz band, Orch, etc..) is hard to do if you can't see the notes.  Like playing chess and not seeing the whole board.

3)  Exporting a song From Sonar into any notation app is very, very labor intensive.  It should be a simple process, we are dealing with computers that do labor way better than humans.

just saying... 

slartabartfast

If I want to work with midi I’ll enter the data freehand in the event list.

I am guessing you do not work with midi all that much. You could record audio by manually writing in each sample value too, but I am assuming you probably prefer to have that process computer-automated to improve your workflow. I could live without the ability to record sound into Sonar at all, but I am not proposing that capability be dropped.


I came to Cakewalk software from early versions of CSound, and I have abandoned the flexibility and power of that program for the convenience of using a DAW. For whatever reason, Cakewalk does not seem to be interested in making it easy for people who want an efficient way to convert notation into midi. I suspect such people are a very small minority of users compared to those who want to string together snippets of other people's songs or repeat inane musical phrases ad nauseum.


Development decisions at Cakewalk are not going to be much influenced by a small number of people venting their frustration on this or any other forum. 

the event list comment was just a joke. i would like to use SV but don't and end up using final.

slartabartfast

If I want to work with midi I’ll enter the data freehand in the event list.

I am guessing you do not work with midi all that much. You could record audio by manually writing in each sample value too, but I am assuming you probably prefer to have that process computer-automated to improve your workflow. I could live without the ability to record sound into Sonar at all, but I am not proposing that capability be dropped.


I came to Cakewalk software from early versions of CSound, and I have abandoned the flexibility and power of that program for the convenience of using a DAW. For whatever reason, Cakewalk does not seem to be interested in making it easy for people who want an efficient way to convert notation into midi. I suspect such people are a very small minority of users compared to those who want to string together snippets of other people's songs or repeat inane musical phrases ad nauseum.


Development decisions at Cakewalk are not going to be much influenced by a small number of people venting their frustration on this or any other forum. 

I want Staff View improvements, and I don't think it's a "small" number of users who use the Staff view, since there have been many lively threads about all this. I think a lot of folks on this Forum base some of their purchasing decisions on what they read here on the Forums . . . so wouldn't it make sense for Cakewalk developers to pay some attention to the opinions on the Forum ?

I use PRV ="Piano Roll View"  all the time. How would I move and edit my midi data? Event list? Event list is good on other things keep that too thank you! 

Hello Susan G; Haven't seen you around these parts for what seems like such a long time. G'day.

Hey Susan,

How've you been? Did you jump on the SONAR X1 or X2 bandwagon?

Scott

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Thanks guys :).

@Scott: No, I haven't upgraded, since my system wasn't really up to it. I might consider it now that I have more HP, but I've been happy with another DAW in the meantime.

-Susan

garrigus

Which one? Just curious... don't want to start any wars.  


Scott

That would be the "R" one ;).


-Susan