Podx3Live/RME Multiface Vol problem

The problem i state here did not occur with last guitar effects pedal, only after using PodX3live. I use RMEMultiface as primary soundcard, when playing guitar thru X3 live (new pedal) into input of multiface, the audio track i use on Sonar for the guitar, the vol slider will not control the volume of the guitar, only the vol controls of the x3 will adjust vol, but if i turn the vol down on the x3 enough to here the backup tracks for recording, the vol of my guitar track when played back is too low to make decent mix. (the vol slider does work on the track vol after the recording, but the recorded track itself turned all the way up at this point is still too low). I loaded the drivers for the X3 but did not elect to use it as a sound card. The other thing i noticed about the x3, is as soon as the computer boots up, the X3 will play into my sound system, whereas before, my last guitar pedal would not go through the sound system until i opened Sonar, selected an audio track with inputs the guitar pedal is routed to, as i do now, but appears the x3 is inputing else where as well. (or I may not know what the heck is going on!) any ideas? captg

I see that the Multi doesnt have XLR ins,  Hmmmm 

Maybe Balanced XLR to TRS cables is the way Id go if thats not what you have setup   

As far as the levels, it kind of sounds like a routing issue on the Multiface to me but Id check all routing real close on both RME and Sonar  

Yes Im thinking the RME is better as far as the card.

Id have to read the manual to see the difference on the Live out from the direct outs. 

I always run direct outs into interface, 
make sure the X3 isnt clipping through any parts of the song as played,
then check my interfaces mixer and set it as high as possible without clipping
then I route that to input into my Sonar track and generally adjust the Main Volume knob (Not the pedal) on the X3 to achieve an input onto the track of -12 to -9 and try to keep it from peaking over -6.

As far as your question:
" the audio track i use on Sonar for the guitar, the vol slider will not control the volume of the guitar, only the vol controls of the x3 will adjust vol"     


Thats is all part of standard gain staging which I explained on how I set mine up. When recording, what you have set up as the signal coming in is what you have and the slider should have no effect on what you see being captured as you record.


As far as being able to hear the mix the way you need to to lay down your X3 guitar track,  adjust those sliders for the tracks already laid down to where your happy with what you can hear but MAKE SURE to set the X3 tracks levels as I explained for the track you will be recording.  

I was lost for a minute trying to figure out what you were getting at in the original post but I understand now.  I think what you have setup is correct, just the understanding of what Sonar is actually doing might have you confused a little bit     

Just follow what I put out there for ya and that will get you going.

It sounds like you need to get a better understanding of setting up for recording initially as far as gain stage, all the levels and routing, and the basic processes of recording with/when other tracks are playing   Then the mixing comes once you have caught all your tracks, thats when you will worry about the faders.  

Please dont take this statement wrong, I dont mean any disrespect by it. Just kind of what Im thinking to help you get there and understand the initial setup and what is actually going on    

Basically I think you can IGNORE all my other posts LOL but this and the one where I explain how I set up for recording with mine.  Sorry for so many edits, I was confusing myself  

Others might chime in with a better/easier way to explain it   

You have great equipment so I wouldnt question that at all

Ill check back later to see how your coming, please keep us posted

Hey man, you are welcome

I dont mind taking the time to help with what I know to get you going

Ill see if I cant find some videos on it even if I have to make one.

What you are trying to do and your thinking on it is RIGHT

We just got to get you up to speed on the Sonar part