mario
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muting multiple layers simultaneously?
Hi,
scenario: I record the drum kit using 5 mics
goingto 5 seperate tracks.
I currently workwith 15takes/layers.
What i am doing if I want to listen to take 3?
Answer: I manually Mute allthe layers 1-2 & 4-15
WE ARE DEALING WITH 70 SEPERATE MUTE THAT
HAVE TO BE DONE!
please tell I am an idiot and that there is a simpler way
of muting/un-muting all layers simultaneously; otherwise
the "we are proding a better workflow" publicity is, well,
let's forget it for now...I've just had a rough afternoon.
Mario
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Re:muting multiple layers simultaneously?
2013/02/03 18:12:53
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Can't you just solo take 3?
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Re:muting multiple layers simultaneously?
2013/02/03 18:53:38
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This may be too much of a pain, but I use the mute tool and click in the top half of the clips.
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Select all the lanes you want to mute, using right click drag lasso. Next, hit f10 a couple of times to get the mute tool, now click in the top half of one of the many selected clips.
Should result in mute happiness.
You can also toggle the mute selections with the same method.
It also works across tracks, so you can do it on 10 tracks at once. To get slick, you have to practice the lasso select. Hit f5 before trying the right click lasso select to ensure you are in smart mode.
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Re:muting multiple layers simultaneously?
2013/02/03 19:02:58
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Hmm... multi select the tracks (Ctrl + Click the track number), hold Ctrl and click the solo button of the layer (take) you want to hear? Maybe I'm misunderstanding... and it has been a while since I've used X1 so maybe it doesn't work that way.
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Re:muting multiple layers simultaneously?
2013/02/03 19:05:40
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@gswitz... I think OP is using X1 because he said Layers instead of Lanes. As I said it's been a while since I've used X1 and my skills were rudimentary at best back then so I don't know how well the Mute tool would work for this.
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mario
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Re:muting multiple layers simultaneously?
2013/02/03 19:30:44
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Oops,
I forgot to mentionned I'm using X2....even if I said layers
1) honestly forgot the solo approach. Faster than muting lanes.
In my mind it's not an efficient approach. Don't forget that
the big buzz with the re-design of the stable S8.5 was an
Improvement in the workflow.
2) I ave to understand it but I'll try the lasso approach
Mario
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gswitz
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Re:muting multiple layers simultaneously?
2013/02/03 20:06:04
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Lasso works well for muting and unmuting lots of lanes. Don't forget ctrl + lasso too to unselect.
So, you could select 50 lanes, then ctrl+click or ctrl+lasso to unselect the 4 in the middle you want. Now f10 to get mute tool (or use T to get the pop up selector and choose mute by click-hold on the square on the far right then choose mute).
Now click in the top half of one of your selected tracks and it should toggle all of their settings. If the track was set to mute, mute turns off. If it was set not to mute, mute turns on.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re:muting multiple layers simultaneously?
2013/02/03 20:13:29
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mario
Hi,
scenario: I record the drum kit using 5 mics
goingto 5 seperate tracks.
I currently workwith 15takes/layers.
What i am doing if I want to listen to take 3?
Answer: I manually Mute allthe layers 1-2 & 4-15
WE ARE DEALING WITH 70 SEPERATE MUTE THAT
HAVE TO BE DONE!
please tell I am an idiot and that there is a simpler way
of muting/un-muting all layers simultaneously; otherwise
the "we are proding a better workflow" publicity is, well,
let's forget it for now...I've just had a rough afternoon.
Mario
I don't think I would use layers/lanes in this instance. Are you going to comp from 70 different take lanes? I would do this on tracks. Brian
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gswitz
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Re:muting multiple layers simultaneously?
2013/02/03 20:16:57
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So, in the example you describe above, if all 5 tracks were next to each other...
expand layers on every track...
f5 to ensure smart tool
right click + drag to expand the lasso to select all layers on all 5 tracks.
f10 once or twice to get the mute tool (depending on what you used last).
now, click in the top half of one of the selected lanes
ctrl+shift+a to unselect all
f5 to get smart tool
next, ctrl click all the third lane of each of the five tracks
f10 to get mute tool and click in the top half of one of the selected tracks and it will turn off mute on all five disparately selected lanes.
pretty fast... I don't know. Solo would be how I would probably do it, but muting would work too and wouldn't be all that slow.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re:muting multiple layers simultaneously?
2013/02/03 20:49:10
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You could also just select all the clips > right click > Mute/Unmute (muting all of the clips). Now when you want to listen to a set of takes make sure nothing is selected (Ctrl + Shift + A) then multi slect the set of clips you want by holding Ctrl and clicking on them one at a time. Keep holding Ctrl > Right Click > Mute/Unmute. Now that set of takes is audible leaving the rest muted.
This isn't ideal and will only work for continuous clips but it's good enough for listening back to see what take you want to be your final. Then clone the tracks, archive the originals to get them out of your way but still have them on hand if you want and in the cloned tracks delete the unwanted takes and edit the keepers.
Using the take lanes Solo/Mute buttons would obviously be much better but they are buggy as all heck and I'm not sure how well they deal with multi selecting in this way. I seem to recall having some issues when I was playing around with something similar.
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mario
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Re:muting multiple layers simultaneously?
2013/02/03 21:32:06
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 Are you crazy??? Let me add a few info on what was going on... 1) The drummer, who is not necessarily a patient person, is part to my 2nd friend, who is also not that patient, song. 2) In a situation like that the last thing you want to is do lanes clean-up along the way. You push the save button as often as you can and you away from the ctrl-z shortcut. So yes I will to clean-up the project and I hope I will never have to comp drums tracks that have more than 2 lanes. The lanes concept is good biut visually it makes things difficult to manage. What comes to mind as a suggestion is the ability to re-size the lane height. Mario
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mario
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Re:muting multiple layers simultaneously?
2013/02/04 08:13:38
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ok,
I think I've an more efficient way of doing thisusing the track templates.
1) I will insert my 5 tracks in a folder
2) I will save them as a track template. The thing I didn't know is
that the template "knows" that the tracks are included in a folder.
3) From then on All I will have to do is insert those tracks using the
template.
Et viola....I've just created added a new folder containing my 5 tracks and
all that when the drummer drops his sticks...lol
I am still going to end up with multiple takes but soloing folder is much
faster to do.
But i still thing the lane can be improved as I can't I'm the only one
taking multiple takes of drm performance....
Mario
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