TraceyStudios
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Video Screen Capture
I know this is not a Sonar specific related question however I have seen many tutorials and the very cool video Craig made. What is the software used to capture the "screen video" to make such videos etc? I would like to do similar. :)
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/08 11:49:13
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TraceyStudios
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/08 11:57:13
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Thanks garrigus! Unfortunatly, it is $300. Any other less expensive options you might recommend? I am totally new to video, never done anything related to video.
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/08 12:01:17
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a few options , there is a free one cam studio http://camstudio.org/ but there is also 1 built into corel video studio x5.. I just bought mine for £50 ish ($100) boxed off ebay from a legit seller. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370725520799 I would suggest look on your local ebay for a start.. but make sure it's boxed etc. and obv. at a "none silly" price, that seems suss.. reason I bought it there is it was cheaper than the download version direct from corel
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TraceyStudios
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/08 12:07:01
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Thanks guys!! I think I will start with the free one and do a couple of vids, see how it goes, see what it takes etc, then spend some money if I think I will be doing lots of it. Awesome! Look out youtube!!!!!!! LOL!! Trace
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/08 14:23:36
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Camstudio is pretty good especially with some of the freeware zoom utilities available. I've also used BSR which is pretty good for a cheap one and in respect of recording audio IMHO better than Camtasia which for me at least point blank refuses to capture at 48 kHz. I agree with Scott though, Camtasia is way in front of the others for features especially editing - as it should be given the price. V8 has settled down now as well after several updates. Anyone who thinks Sonar new releases are buggy should try Techsmith. Camtasia was crashing two or three times per session when I was making the X2 video.
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/08 14:30:26
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I use Hypercam. It's basic, functional, free, and stable. All the editing happens in Vegas. It's a little tricky to figure out how to capture audio into Hypercam, I need to use two interfaces and patch them together with cables. Hypercam uses WDM on one interface, Sonar uses ASIO on the other. There are ways to use a single interface, but I find that ultimately, the dual interface option is more straightforward. For the videos, I actually had to write out instructions on how to set the audio in Vegas, Hypercam, the interfaces, and the Windows control panel. Before doing any videos, I go trough the checklist as all the variables need to be set up correctly.
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/08 15:30:55
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Anderton I use Hypercam. It's basic, functional, free, and stable. All the editing happens in Vegas. It's a little tricky to figure out how to capture audio into Hypercam, I need to use two interfaces and patch them together with cables. Hypercam uses WDM on one interface, Sonar uses ASIO on the other. There are ways to use a single interface, but I find that ultimately, the dual interface option is more straightforward. For the videos, I actually had to write out instructions on how to set the audio in Vegas, Hypercam, the interfaces, and the Windows control panel. Before doing any videos, I go trough the checklist as all the variables need to be set up correctly. I had the same issue with CamStudio. To make things worse my computer is in another room, behind a wall. I could not get the program to except audio from my soundcard. What i do is run a digital video camera, dump the file into Vegas and use the audio from the camera. I ve been creating tutorials for a class I teach. It gives you a 2 camera shoot.
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/08 15:45:28
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IIRC BSR would re-route audio to record from Sonar using some sort of internal loop back I think. I managed to get CamStudio to do that too but can't for the life of me remember how. With Camtasia I use a separate interface (Roland Sonic Cell) which I monitor via my main interface (A&H ZED-R16). It works really well like that but it does need the two interfaces. If anyone knows how to get Camtasia to record at 48 kHz please PM me with the secret, it won't work for me, even with the audio option set to that.
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Fog
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/08 19:58:52
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interesting both of you have issues with recording.. I'd have tried WDM or MME really.. errm also check your windows "default" hardware device isn't messing with the recording rather perhaps ? or when switching between apps again.. if the bit depth is changed that might be faffing it up in your windows recording properties you'll find an "advanced" section.. and under there you should able to get 48k also.. if it's set at 44.1 then yer i might be tripping it up. there is also other "record what you hear" options in that device manager bit .. again that depends on the soundcard itself.. I guess someone who writes drivers for soundcards would give you a far better view (not that I'm unsubtly hint or nowt :) ) p.s. karl.. if that works.. I want ya next sonar vid free..haha
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/08 23:04:20
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You can use something like Audials for pretty cheap.
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/09 02:11:51
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Fog interesting both of you have issues with recording.. I'd have tried WDM or MME really.. errm also check your windows "default" hardware device isn't messing with the recording rather perhaps ? or when switching between apps again.. if the bit depth is changed that might be faffing it up in your windows recording properties you'll find an "advanced" section.. and under there you should able to get 48k also.. if it's set at 44.1 then yer i might be tripping it up. there is also other "record what you hear" options in that device manager bit .. again that depends on the soundcard itself.. I guess someone who writes drivers for soundcards would give you a far better view (not that I'm unsubtly hint or nowt :) ) p.s. karl.. if that works.. I want ya next sonar vid free..haha Hi Fog........ I'm pretty sure the answer to getting Camstudio recording audio from the DAW is something to do with the Windows mixer, I can't for the life of me remember but I def got it working. With my current set up Camtasia just refuses to open my main device's driver if Sonar has it locked at 48 despite Camtasia having 48 selected in the audio options. Interestingly your post has just made me think that I may just have had a "Doh...  " moment. I'll need to check when I get back to base, but I've a feeling that my other audio device I use for Camtasia output is set at 44.1. Obviously Camtasia can't work with two different rates at the same time so may well be overriding the settings to match the output. It won't affect my monitoring as I'm doing that via audio connections through my mixer so it'll only affect the digital one. I'll try changing the output device and see what happens but I have a feeling that may well be it.
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/09 08:43:25
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have a look in the advanced bit in recording on windows device setup for a start.. if it's using the same 48k , then it's got one less thing to moan / complain about or basically eliminate. Each card can be crippled to not show standard windows features etc. in the default windows setup.. so it's tricky to say what your cards allow / don't allow without owning em. some cards have the "records what you hear" others don't.. does it have to be 48k ? I mean can't you just change the rate afterwards if your managing 44.1 ? I would say either WDM or MME is probably better suited to the task tbh. as I guess it deals with task/app switching better and the fact "asio" really is primarily a DAW / pro audio standard. I'll let ya know if the corel thing supports it after I faff about with it hehe , but am currently "battling" with an eprom programmer that has very wonky crashing software
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/09 10:56:46
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Yeah, the Sonic Cell runs at 44.1 or 48 but although I use it as a "Windows" soundcard I actually bought it for the synth side. My main interface is a ZED-R16 which will run all the way up to 96 but WDM isn't an option for that due to crap drivers. It only exposes 8 of the 18 in/outs so I really need to run ASIO with that. BTW I can record from both fine unless the Sonar project is at 48 in which case Camtasia just refuses to open the driver.
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/09 11:06:55
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Re:Video Screen Capture
2013/02/10 00:35:16
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Anderton - Thanks for the Hypercam suggestion. It works much better than the free microsoft screen recorder! That thing was headaches. Here's one way I have gotten around the microphone and audio recording at the same time. Open Audacity and use my webcam mic for my narrative. Then record the screen capture. Then put both together in Vegas, make a movie...insert the movie into Sonar and -redo- my VO with a better mic, no stutters, coughs etc.., export new VO and add to Vegas movie. There are still some kinks to work out, but it works.
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