Real Guitar comes out a tone higher

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2013/02/10 13:16:36 (permalink)

Real Guitar comes out a tone higher

Can anyone suggest why Real Guitar audio is coming out a tone higher than the notes in the staff.

Everything was working properly when suddenly I thought I'd transposed by accident, but I hadn't. 

Staff display is set to Octave Treble and I can't find anything in the interface that bumps the notes up a tone. I could write the notes correctly and then transpose down but I shouldn't have to do that!
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    Re:Real Guitar comes out a tone higher 2013/02/10 19:34:12 (permalink)
    There is no standard for what octave corresponds to what MIDI notes, so it's left to the vendors to decide. Consequently, two different synths/samplers might generate notes an octave apart even when driven by the same MIDI data. Just go to the corresponding MIDI track and put "12" in the "Key" box.


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    Re:Real Guitar comes out a tone higher 2013/02/10 19:45:11 (permalink)
    Midi Note Numbers

    The MIDI specification only defines note number 60 as "Middle C", and all other notes are relative. The absolute octave number designations shown here are based on Middle C = C5, which is an arbitrary assignment.

    There is a discrepancy that occurs between various models of MIDI devices and software programs, and that concerns the octave numbers for note names. If your MIDI software/device considers octave 0 as being the lowest octave of the MIDI note range, then middle C's note name is C5. The lowest note name is then C0 (note number 0), and the highest possible note name is G10 (note number 127).

    Some software/devices instead consider the third octave of the MIDI note range (2 octaves below middle C) as octave 0.  In that case, the first 2 octaves  are referred to as -2 and -1. So, middle C's note name is C3, the lowest note name is C-2, and the highest note name is G8. 

    A MIDI controller can have up to 128 distinct pitches/notes. But whereas musicians name the keys using the alphabetical names, with sharps and flats, and also octave numbers, this is more difficult for MIDI devices to process, so they instead assign a unique number to each key. 

    The numbers used are 0 to 127. The lowest note upon a MIDI controller is a C and this is assigned note number 0. The C# above it would have a note number of 1. The D note above that would have a note number of 2.  So "Middle C" is note number 60. A MIDI note number of 69 is used for A440 tuning, that is the A note above middle C.

    Most keyboard controllers have a "MIDI transpose" function so that, even if you don't have the full 128 keys, you can alter the note range that your keyboard covers. For example, instead of that lowest A key being assigned to note number 21, you could transpose it down an octave so that it is assigned a note number of 9.

    As quoted from here:

    http://www.electronics.di...umbers_for_octaves.htm 

    Use your ears and adjust octave and transpose settings accordingly.  

    post edited by Jeff Evans - 2013/02/10 19:47:34

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    Re:Real Guitar comes out a tone higher 2013/02/11 09:18:44 (permalink)
    Flipper and Jeff: 

    Everything was coming out fine - exactly as shown in the staff when displayed at Octave Treble - but then it changed. I don't know why it changed or how but it suddenly started coming out a tone down. Not an octave, just two semi tones.

    Flipper might have hit on it with the Key + thing in the MIDI track, I didn't even know that was there. 

    I know some instruments need to be written lower to get the same note out as instruments that are written correctly but this was not one of those situations, something shifted the pitch while I was working on the song, the display remained correct.
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    Re:Real Guitar comes out a tone higher 2013/02/11 12:56:32 (permalink)
    I never use staff view so have no clue but reading this I could see a value of + or - 2 happening because of using different clefts. 
    Alto / Treble or Bass. 

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