"Block" mode like Reason, FL-Studio

I think you can use the Track View Overview thingie to edit which would be an easy way to create a hunk of space wherever you want across all tracks. 

Probably not a good idea to tout features of other DAWs right now but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your query is genuine. There are lots of ways to do what you are describing in Sonar. Not sure what's wrong with Insert Time or Select All > Split then move things over. It's not a big deal.

  You don't need it or want it in Sonar. Loops is the term you may want to think about. 

  Beep if he comes back and attacks us we will know for sure. BTW FL 10 has gotten rid of "blocks". Their just loops like in Sonar.  

Beepster


I've been looking at some vids showing it in use. I'm not seeing how it would be particularly beneficial.

Their not. Notice I haven't commented on Reason? I know nothing about it. 

Hi John-

BTW FL 10 has gotten rid of "blocks". Their just loops like in Sonar.

FL 10 hasn't gotten rid of blocks entirely, but it's now a legacy feature (with much debate on the IL forum!)


They're not the same as loops in SONAR. What I like(d) about them was the ability to try out multiple ideas before committing one to the Playlist. I can still do that in FL 10, so it's no great loss, but just to be clear, a Pattern or Block in FL doesn't equal a loop in SONAR.


-Susan

In Reason, a block is pretty much a song section.  It allows you treat a large number of elements as a single thing for the purpose of arranging your tune through time.  I think it would be useful to several workflows and I could see it becoming indispensable to others.    

I can certainly live without it, but if the OP can't, then I don't think Sonar is a good fit.

Reason's Blocks feature can be largely, even if not exactly replaced using instanced clips.
 
For example if you've created clips out of one section and laid instances of those clips out as per your song structure then any updates you make to one of those clips will be replicated throughout the rest.
 
So then each element of your song, verse, bridge, chorus etc, can be created just once from one single instance of each element and replicated throughout the same song and any updates on one of those clips of the same type can be updated and the changes will be reflected in each of the clips instanced from it.
 
In effect it achieves the same result but in a slightly different way.
Pretty much the same meat served with different gravy.

Beepster

I don't even get what this is about. I'm assuming this was being viewed as a plug for other software? Rest assured, it's not. That was the first youtube link I found to simply demonstrate what I was after.

Yeah, sorry about that. There have just been a lot of problems around here lately with trolls coming in to stir up trouble.

IDK... I checked out a bunch of block mode vids and although I don't think there is anything specifically like it there are lots of other ways in Sonar to achieve basically the same thing. 

Cheers.

One actually...

One actually...

I'll have to take a look at what you described. Haven't come across that method yet but I'm only a third of the way through the manual. Cheers.

Heh... I was just gonna post about the Split Repeatedly feature. 

Yeah I honestly never use the blocks in FL studio anymore. as soon as they switched to playlist clips, that was the way to go for me...

I feel they are just as fast as blocks and I work FAST. I have a one-hour beats challenge to prove it. 

HOWEVER

I have to say that when it comes to speed of drum programming, and sometimes MIDI. fl studio is WAY faster than Sonar.. by a landslide. 

I know both daws very well so I am not a noob at shortcuts (tho sometimes I forget the odd used one). each has their strengths and weaknesses. If only I could get FL to work in sonar as a VSTi life would be perfect. alas. the finger pointing game starts.

Loop clips are pretty fast in sonar, but when it comes to sequencing out different beats and using the playlist in FL? it is about 5 times faster easily. 

I hate HATE HATE the workflow in Reason, it is SO unintuitive... the playlist and block modes need all kinds of modifier keys just to work properly. 

Sonar has made progress in the sketching department, but I still do all my sketching in FL studio..


p.s. 

if you set up a template with sonar that has some pre-loaded drums in battery or something like that, it gets way faster..

use the step sequencer, which automatically creates loop clips, and then to test out a new clip just click the SS at the top of your drum plugin.

having the SS and the samplers native to the FL daw takes out a lot of steps.. and the SS in fl studio is tons faster than in Sonar 

here is the thread... still nothing working : http://forum.cakewalk.com...?m=2482820&mpage=1

I actually did have problems in 8.5, sometimes I would stop the audio in sonar but it would keep playing in FL.

what ver of FL are you using? I think 9 was the last stable vsti release...


I am going to wait till FL 11 comes out, finish off some of my projects that i loaded in 10 beta then just uninstall fl completely and just go back to fl9 for drum sequencing. 

yeah this problem occoured since x1 and fl 10..I am gonna try and re-install FL 9 but I need to finish some critical projects first lol