A noobs melodical piano noise

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2013/02/13 12:12:12 (permalink)

A noobs melodical piano noise

Hi

Im not a musician.
Listening to some of the stuff you guys post in this forum is soo fantastic, that i feel completely intimidated and almost didnt post this, cos in contrast, it sounds plastic and childlike ... Its my 3rd attempt at something

I did listen to a few .. in the hope i could find someone at the same level as me .. maybe theyre all too intimidated also   :D

That said .. I do love ma wee tune anyway .. cos am biased .. and i spent a while piecing it together .. so may as well let a few other pair of ears endure it ... 

Am not sure if i should apologise in advance  .. :D

B

http://youtu.be/ZVJkzxWqbk4

God Bless
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/13 12:25:26 (permalink)
    Brian, the best way to describe this is to take your own evaluation at face value.  That being said, the fact that you posted this and don't have an inflated opinion of yourself gives me hope.  If you're willing to learn, take advice, and be patient, you'll do well here.  Let this be the start of something bigger, and expand on this theme.  Keep writing as much as possible, and you will grow.  If music ever becomes an obsession with you, you'll be surprised at how fast you develop.  Good luck and welcome to the forum.

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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/13 13:41:00 (permalink)
    A round of applause for your bravery sir

    Lynn says it all just hang around here and you will learn a bundle of useful information.

    We all had to start somewhere.

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/13 14:54:39 (permalink)
    Better than my first efforts when I was "learning"*









    *Well, I'm still learning but that is another story for another time.
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/13 17:48:29 (permalink)
    Thanks all, for taking the time to listen and respond with your kind words ... Bapu, your words may have inspired me to do more ... Thanks .. Will see how it goes ... I came here initially to see if anyone liked my wee tune .. See if im inspired to do more or not .. Cos the people in my life arent this way inclined .. id be wasting my time, and asking to be mocked .. But since coming here to this forum, i realise, its an excellent resource for finding new music ... Seriously .. some of the stuff on this site is excellent ... Cant believe i didnt think of checking for 'new' music in places like this sooner ... :D God Bless guys ... ETA - I keep editing this message to break it up innto paragraphs .. Buut once posted, its just a solid wall of text again .. cant work it out
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/13 19:35:56 (permalink)
    Hi Brianb,

    I echo all the responses above by a great bunch of guys that really know what they are doing.  Lynn, Bapu, and Wookiee have been around a long time. 

    Cast out your fears and let it rip.  The worst that can happen is what you thought was good may not hit others the same way.  The best that can happen is you learn and grow in your skills and creativity. 

    When you have a forum like this with very talented people willing to give you pointers, critism, and encouragement, you just can't go wrong if you keep an open mind.  Lynn said that very well.

    All the best.

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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/13 23:11:46 (permalink)
    Well, I like it. There is nothing to be embarrassed about at all. This was fun, progressive and... kind of cool. It made me feel good listening to it. You got nothing to worry about. Keep playing from the heart and it will all fall into place. Do not worry about any of us here. There are like two of us that are any good and the rest are just like you (including me): doing it cuz we love it.

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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/14 04:08:35 (permalink)
    thanks so much guys .. foxwolfen .. your words really put a big smile on my face .. I needed to hear that .. Apart from me and yourself, my sister is the only other person that said she liked it .. and shes hardly likely to say its rubbish :D The feedback you gave me foxwolfen is inspiring .. Thanks .. My heart was through the floor prior to this cos my mates just laughed at me when i asked their opinion, and I felt like i was just playing silly games with myself and should leave it to real musicians like you guys .. I stopped asking them for their opinions ... i was rather disappointed and posting it here was kinda the last chance ... like the deciding factor for me as to whether i should bother doing more I know i had fun making it of course .. But wondered, going forward, if theres much point if im the only person that enjoys it ... :D Thanks again ... Im curious to see what else i can 'piece together' :D God Bless

     
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/14 10:41:01 (permalink)
    It sounds like music is in your heart so that's step one out of the way. This is nice but needs a melody. This could be something better with a vocal line? Even Led Zepplin had really simple songs that were some of their biggest hits.

    Well done! Keep it up!!!

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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/14 11:17:07 (permalink)
    Brian, friends and family are the last people I go to now to show my work too. I too have been vastly disappointed by my friend's and family' lack of support. So much so that many of my old friendships have cooled. If they are not also already creative, then it seems they cannot understand what it is we are doing and why. Creativity seems to scare them. Do not let others stop you from following your heart. It does not matter what others think. Vincent Van Gogh was completely dismissed in his time. He died thinking he was a failure. Today he is considered among the top artists of all time (if not the top).

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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/14 15:42:54 (permalink)
    Thanks everyone ... Youre all so nice .. I like this forum .. 

    foxwolfen .. wow .. its like we both had the same eye openers ... My expectations definitely shifted after my first wee tune ...     youre right about the friends who are not creative in that way .. they dont seem to know what to say to me ... fine ... i just adjusted my expectations there .. 
    like you say about a couple of friendships cooling ..   I was gutted at the lack of response from my musician friends .. they completely dingied me .. lol .. and when i think back to all the nice things i said about their musical talents and the feed back on their music .. and the other favours i did for them because i could ... pfft ...    my reality has shifted now somewhat .... But its all good .. im very glad for the experience ... 

    Anyway .. am rambling ...   in short .. i agree with all you said . perfect .. thanks a lot man .. 




     
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/14 16:59:34 (permalink)
    God Bless you too B...
    I loved the music & video...

    Please tell me about the graphics... how did you acomplish that?
    I'm serious... I'd like to know a cheap & easy way of capturing and publishing computer generated graphics that interact with my music...
    Very cool...
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/14 17:18:42 (permalink)
    hi notnat .. pleased to meet you sir .. thanks .. 

    The video was surprisingly simple ... If you have ever used winamp .. it comes bundled with a visualisation plug in called 'milkdrop' .. although you could use any other vis plug-in for winamp, from their website ... 

    once winamp vis plug in is running ... i ran a small piece of software called fraps .. it captured what winamp was displaying very easily ... seems to be easier to use than i expected .. 

    one i captured the 'video' .. i used a basic video editor (avs4you) .. to piece it together with the original wav file, (rather than use the replayed audio captured captured by fraps) ... 

    i set the output setting to a HD resolution (1280x720) ... cos im sure when played at HD on YouTube, that YT doesnt compress the audio so much .. Good to have the HD resolution for that reason

    If youre interested, and want more info .. please ask .. am glad to share .. 

    there may be an easier way to achieve this ... but i always loved milkdrop .. so didnt really look for another solution .. 

     
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/14 17:37:30 (permalink)
    brianb


    hi notnat .. pleased to meet you sir .. thanks .. 

    The video was surprisingly simple ... If you have ever used winamp .. it comes bundled with a visualisation plug in called 'milkdrop' .. although you could use any other vis plug-in for winamp, from their website ... 

    once winamp vis plug in is running ... i ran a small piece of software called fraps .. it captured what winamp was displaying very easily ... seems to be easier to use than i expected .. 

    one i captured the 'video' .. i used a basic video editor (avs4you) .. to piece it together with the original wav file, (rather than use the replayed audio captured captured by fraps) ... 

    i set the output setting to a HD resolution (1280x720) ... cos im sure when played at HD on YouTube, that YT doesnt compress the audio so much .. Good to have the HD resolution for that reason

    If youre interested, and want more info .. please ask .. am glad to share .. 

    there may be an easier way to achieve this ... but i always loved milkdrop .. so didnt really look for another solution .. 
    Thank you Brian...
    now you are the teacher... and I am the pupil...
     
    I appreciate that, and will try it out soon... I do have a youtube account, but I've only produced a few slideshows using MS MovieMaker live... pretty rudimental stuff... I would like to learn more... 

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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/14 17:52:46 (permalink)
    i may have given information overload, and made that sound more difficult than it is ... 

    if i could break it down to 2 parts ...   

    Have a look at winamp ... run one of the visualisation plug-ins to your music ..  thats the easy part .. and free

    if you like what you see and want to make it into a video ... its slightly more involved, to start out ..... But easy once you get going .. 

    You need to get some 'capture' software ... so it can record what youre 'seeing' in real time ..   I cannot say offhand, what capture software you should use ... As i imagine most, like fraps,  want you to pay for them, else theyll limit the video length and put a watermark on the videos .... 

    Perhaps someone on here can suggest free capture software .. 

    You should have a look at winamps milkdrop or the likes to start you off ... 

     
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/14 18:25:06 (permalink)
    Thanks again Brian...
     
    your piece of music here, really is catchy & cool... 
     
     
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/15 10:06:38 (permalink)
    We all have to begin somewhere. And most everyone here remembers our first attempts at recording. It says a lot about you, that you would post your song without knowing what sort of reception it would get. That takes courage, considering that this is the internet. And yeah...as someone above mentioned, I don't often tell my family or friends that I have written a new song because they are mostly not very supportive or appreciative of the music, and the time and effort and emotion that went into writing and recording it. I can do without the discouraging comments and looks. 

    On the other hand.....

    There are some extremely talented people here and they are willing to share their expertise and knowledge with anyone willing to ask. People who will help and will encourage you and teach you things that would take years to figure out on your own....


    So, jump in, write, post and learn. 

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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/15 13:14:43 (permalink)
    thanks notnat .. means a lot :)

    guitarhacker ... 
    I had no idea soo many of you shared the same disappointing expectations for support and feedback as me from friends and family ... I guess its kinda why i ended up here .. hoping someone would say something nice about my wee tune before i give in completely   :D   .. i didnt expect to end up in a place where the rest of you were here for the same reason ...  lol .. excellent
    Since reading around .. ive come across another couple of folk, who say they also come here cos they cant rely on friends or family ...   I really had no idea anyone other than me felt this way ... i suddenly feel a bit less alone in that aspect  :D ... 

    Thanks again guys ...   youve been brill ... 


     
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/16 05:19:03 (permalink)
    Hi Brian and welcome to the forum. 
    I started off in the same way you did, very nervous posting my first tune here. What followed was something I was not expecting, strong support from a great bunch of pros, and I remember each and every one of them who helped me back then. The respect I have for each of them is unmatched. 

    I feel without that support,  I too would have quit a long time ago, but I keep plugging away trying to get to the level of the guys on here. (far way for me to go, but I'll keep trying)

    I liked your little wee tune too, and for someone who is 'not a musician' your potential is immense. Stick at it, and I'm sure you will enjoy the ride.


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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/16 11:42:15 (permalink)
    Thanks for the strong words of encouragement Mark .. 
    I intend to explore my creativity more, thanks to the support you guys have shown me in this thread .. without which, i do think my heart would still be thru the floor ...   I really appreciate it ...   Just waiting on another flash of inspiration .. while messing about with all these gadgets in sonar that i dont have a clue what they do yet .. 

    I love the words you wrote about yourself, in your youtube chanel ... haa .. made me laugh .. briliant .. 
    That 'impact' footage is quite powerful eh ... as i was watching it .. it kinda reminded me of a strange thought i get when listening to Simon & garfunkels 'El condor pasa' ...  When the song plays, i imagine the irony of looking out the window, and seeing a huge meteor or something come into our sky, careering towards me .. and all i can do is wait motionless as i continue to listen to 'yes i would, if i only could' ... The irony of having to listen to that wee happy song while watching my imminent doom hurl towards me kinda humours me in some sick way .. 

    Thats exactly the effect i get when watching teh impact, and listening to your happy music ... i wasnt sure if should say that or not, cos i dont want to sound offensive, and i do like it ... But then i see you wrote 'your goal is to create musical ironies' ... If this is what you meant by musical ironies .. then you should know it worked perfectly for me 
    if not .. then please ignore those last 2 rambling paragraphs   ;)



     
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/16 11:59:58 (permalink)
    Hey Brian, and welcome to the forum.  I hope you'll stick around and become a regular.  Very cool little video, and, personally, I found the thematic piece to be pretty interesting musically.  Trust me when I tell you that many, including yours truly, have done less on their first efforts.

    Kudos to you for putting yourself out there.  Yeah, it does take courage.  I can still remember the knot I had in my stomach when I posted my first tune.  BUT, the folks here are great.  You'll get lots of help and guidance.  Hang out, listen, comment, post, make music and love that you can.  Besides... our last names rhyme .


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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/16 12:38:47 (permalink)
    Cheers Phil ... 
    I do hope i stick around too ..  This would be an excellent hobby to have ... Probably like the rest of you, my love of music is what inspired me to try .. Feeling how good some music makes me feel when i get lost in it .. and wishing it was me that could make music and have it make someone feel that good .. even just one track ...  but the fun aspect is the main part for me to appreciate now i think .. 

    I didnt know what to expect when i posted it ... i thought it may make a few smile, at the sound of its initial simplicity .. maybe some may compliment me, to humour me and make me feel good ... while the more serious musicians may not respond, but instead inwardly be insulted by my noobness ... :D  

    Youve all been real nice to me ... and i can tell the compliments are all sincere and genuine, which is extremely valuable ..  i didnt expect yous to actually like it so, musically ...   :D ...    I can see how this can be a great community .. 
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/16 13:32:28 (permalink)
    Brian Listen to what Lynn said. and what you did does not sound bad. Use much D-Pro for creating new sound variations. and you will hear a big difference. and by the way for the begginers train yourself using a Spectrum analyzer (span or something like that). Peace!!!
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    Re:A noobs melodical piano noise 2013/02/16 13:41:13 (permalink)
    B36B.. Thanks for the pointers mate .. will check it out .. 

     
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