X1 Novice Question

Hello everyone, My set up: Older 32bit 1.8Ghz Core 2 Duo computer - dual screen M-audio Light Bridge interface Additional Plug-ins: Melodyne Editor 2 - Ozone 5 Advanced I upgraded from my rarely used Sonar 3 to X1 some months ago when the upgrade came with a "free upgrade to X2 when released". I will move up to X2 as soon as I can afford to buy a new computer. I'm finally able to have the time to really get into X1. I'm hoping to use X1/X2 as my mixing platform. I am currently mixing on two Roland VS2480 (stand alone DAW machines) I'm using Melodyne Editor plug-in on my vocal tracks for pitch & timing correction. I used to do it on the hardware version of Auto Tune, the ATR-1 (very old). The problem is, Melodyne creates its own audio file that is separate from the original audio file recorded into X1. On playback, if the Melodyne is active, it plays its own audio track with the corrections. What I want to do, is to keep/record the vocal tracks with the resulting sound. I was just going to record each Track output into some New Audio tracks. I just assumed I can route a Track output to another track to record, bouncing the track is the old school terminology. The "IN/OUT" selection only allows me to select a track from my Interface. There are NO Option to select any existing Audio track as the input. Question : How can a bounce a track to another track? Not that I'm taxing the CPU, yet, but eventually I will. When that happens, I would want to start removing Plug Ins. I will need to Bounce it to another track as audio with the plug in FX sound. I'm quite sure it can be done since its a basic studio process. I'm sure its me . . . being a novice . . . and probably missed something obvious. I'm sure I'll be visiting here often. I'm a bit stuck. Can someone point me in the right direction? . . . away from my brick wall Any help/suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks - Ed

I do not have Melodyne but I can tell you that the basic routing and bouncing functions work the same as SONAR 3. The commands and shortcuts have moved/changed but the concepts are the same. The bounce track function is on the Tracks menu in the track view.

Thanks for your replies. I don't know how my post came out without paragraphs . . . strange. garrigus, After looking at your links, you seem to be THE MAN ! I feel I need to address you as "Sir", "Your Holiness", "Your Highness" or at least "Your Honor". Very impressive resume indeed. The "Track menu" !! I missed that one . . . I'm so used to the menu waaay up on top. I found it! And there it is, "Bounce to track". When I choose "track" in the source dialog box . . . Voi-la, all audio tracks are listed. "Right Click" on the track pane . . . I missed that one too. I found "Freeze track". I tried it, very cool. Thank you. I am very aware of the menu selections directly above the "areas" that can be opened and closed. ------ scook & jhughs, Yes, much of things "you can do" is indeed similar to Sonar 3. Its just finding the command is sometimes like finding a needle in a haystack. I think just "moving/copying" to a new track is pretty straight forward. If I copy a few bars of audio to a new track, I am copying a section from the "original" track, NOT the track WITH Melodyne edits included. Which means I will have to re-do Melodyne edits in that section all over again. To avoid that, I wanted to bounce that section to another track WITH the Melodyne edits. Now I can use Melodyne to create harmony tracks. If you have Melodyne, there is some qwerky things that happen with Overdubs. Melodyne Editor is a SINGLE TRACK editor. I recorded the overdubbed area into Melodyne for pitch correction. The overdubbed area is there but it lost the rest of the track. In playback, only the overdub is affected and the rest of the track is the original track playing. I'm still trying to figure all that out. I'm just starting with "take layers". I understand the concept but Melodyne seems to only work on one layer. I may need to create a comped track before using Melodyne. Thanks Ed PS: I just clicked on "Preview" to make sure my paragraphs are in tact, but it just shows a page with "undefined" in it. What am I doing wrong, or am I??

You post has no paragraphs because you're probably using a browser *cough*Firefox*cough* that doesn't play nicely with this horrible outdated forum software. To preserve formatting, use a browser like Chrome to post here. 

sharke, --- You are right. I am using Firefox, I have for over 10 years. --- How about Win. Explorer? --- Will that show up correctly? --- Thanks

This is a test post

New paragraph.

I'm using "Internet Explorer"
 Well it showed me a Preview, which I couldn't do in Firefox. 

Hope this works
Ed

I use Melodyne Editor (ME) ....

To keep the original and make a copy of the new ME version, simply select the entire track (highlight it) and use the "Bounce to track" function. It bounces to a new track and leaves the original with ME in the FX bin where it was. 

Quite often, especially recently, from experience, I have learned that I can do this differently and I like how it works.

I first clone the original vocal track and mute it so I know which one it is. I also rename the cloned track. Now I start working on the clone with ME. As I work and listen to check the work,  I save the work often. When I get the track finished or think it is, I simply use the APPLY FX to make the changes permanent. Yes... you can undo them as long as you have not saved and closed the project.  

I find there is no need for me to keep the original out of tune vocal track once I have the ME version and have it sounding good. So I will most certainly delete it. 

Note: even if you delete an audio track from the project, it is still accessible if you ever really, really need it. Nothing gets deleted from the audio folder..... only the project you see on the GUI. I have (one time) deleted a vocal track that I wanted to back up to..... when I went to the audio folder, I was able to find it fairly quick and drag it back in to the project....a bit of nudging and it was good to go again.