x2 midi monitoring

 I've just installed X2 on a newly built win8 machine and transferred a few producer 6 projects. I'm finding my way around the new gui but I'm stumped with monitoring midi channels through TTS1(or any synth for that matter). I have a midi track with input set to layla midi omni...this shows meter movement when the piano is played. The output of the midi track is assigned to an audio track with TTS1 as the synth. The output of the audio track is assigned to layla audio out. the synth works if I assign prerecorded midi tracks to it. when I play the piano the meter moves on the midi track but NOT on the audio/TTS1 track and TTS1 will not sound the preview buttons on the bottom of the track display. Previously, on producer 6, I used this method to monitor piano playing but it doesn't seems to work here at all. Can anybody suggest where I might be going wrong.... I havn't applied the X2A patch yet.

I am completely unsure of what 'layla' is, so forgive me if I miss the mark.

The basic routing assignments for a soft synth and associated audio track should be:

For the audio track (or tracks if stereo)
     Input: Should be set to the output of the soft synth
     Output: Should be to Master, or to a Bus (which then routes to Master)


For the Midi track: 
     Input: Set to omni in most cases
     Output: Set to the soft synth you want this track to trigger

For drums, I record them all on midi channel 10, and have separate audio tracks for each drum kit piece. 

I use dedicated midi channels for each soft synth instrument, whether that is multiple separate instances of synths or multiple instruments loaded in 1 synth (like TTS-1 or Kontakt).  

This is certainly not required - I do it so that if I ever create midi files of songs that they reduce the amount of prep work needed for someone else to open and use my midi file.  I download and use a lot of midi files that kind folks have put together, and I owe it back to that community to setup my midi files to be as easy to use as I can.

Sorry I drifted into midi channels.  I meant to stop at just saying that since you referenced TTS-1, which allows multiple intruments to be loaded, that what I would recommend is a separate midi track for each loaded instrument in TTS-1, with the Midi Output Channel assignment for each of those tracks to be set to the appropriate channel number for that track's intended instrument (and labelled as such).

Bottom line - please review your track routing assignments, as compared to my examples - try adjusting yours to match my suggestions, and post back with results - OR please let me know where I goofed in my read of your post, so that I can better address your situation.

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Bob Bone

 Hi Bob you wrote: For the audio track (or tracks if stereo) Input: Should be set to the output of the soft synth Output: Should be to Master, or to a Bus (which then routes to Master) For the Midi track: Input: Set to omni in most cases Output: Set to the soft synth you want this track to trigger ------------------------------------------------------------- That's exactly what I have....been doing it for 10 years like that...and now it doesn't work... I was thinking it's something I don't know about in X2...maybe not... btw ..layla is echo layla 3G...but apart form drivers for win8 nothing has changed here for a long while.

Bob has had that effect before.

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 Hi Bob
"Do you have the midi track selected, and the Input Echo button 'On' for that midi track? I just opened a new project, followed the steps I listed above, and TTS-1 plays just fine - I have Input Echo on for that piano track. "
Yes..exactly the same
problem is more fundamental I think
with TTS1 assigned to an audio track that has no input and main output set the preview green buttons light when pressed but no sound is generated...there is no output and the meters do not show.
it looks very much like my softsynths don't work at all in this set up...
win8 - 64 bit - X2A - G640/MSI B75MA mobo - 4gb
Ed

 "What sample rate are you using? "
44k1

 Hi Bob
It looks like I havn't explained this very well.
The audio track IS TTS1, and whether it has the output of the midi track assigned to its input makes no difference here.
The output of the audio track is assigned to the master output, which works under every other circumstance.
The midi track does not pass signal to the audio(TTS1) track. Furthermore, the TTS1 does not generate a preview tone.
The echo layla is set to asio 44k1 and Sonar is set to 44k1 24bit.
PS. I loaded up this morning and it all works as it should, as it did once yesterday. I am expecting it to stop working at any time.
I will see if I can get a response from Cakewalk.
many thanks for looking.
Ed

I do not have any ideas as to what could be happening - perhaps it IS your interface.

When no sound come out for the TTS-1 audio track, are other things still playing OK?  (If so, then it is not the interface).

Bob Bone

Please elaborate on what you are double-clicking on that causes the engine drop out, and also what you are doing with a soft-synth as an effect?  (external knob control perhaps?).

Thanks, 

Bob Bone

Have you tried Synth Rack? Does it still behave the same?
I've never put soft synths in the FX bin so I don't know if there's any difference.

Do not use the FX bin for that - load each soft synth into the synth rack, and simply route to and from it with an audio and a midi track.

Double-clicking the synth in the rack will open up the properties and let you change sounds and such.

Bob Bone