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Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
So, I finally got everything in my laptop and installed Virus Control for my new Ti2. It shows up but I cannot enable the drivers on the X2 Preferences page. I assume this is because you can only one usb I/O at a time. If this is so, will not turning on my Tascam US1641, while I use the usb path for the Ti2 suffice? Perhaps there is something else to do first? I have 3 -usb2 ports and 1-usb3 (which I have my external library drive on). They are US1641, usb mouse and lastly the Ti2. I am working on one track at a time (bass parts, synths, vocals, guitar, etc, ie not with bands). I also recently got my Fender Super Champ X2 and Mustang Floor, both of which also have usb options. I understand that Hubs are not a good idea and since I am working on one thing or another, I am really interested in how I can shift gears in the usb sense. Any other advice for a noob RE the Virus. Please jump in..... Thanks Michael
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 19:05:57
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I am a bit confused. You are attempting to use the Virus Control component within Sonar? I presume that is for controlling the knobs and whatnots. I looked at the support site for Access, and there are a total of ZERO articles on their site dealing with using Virus Control with Sonar. Are you SURE this is supposed to work? Also, the Ti2 will appear as a choice for midi input devices, with the name 'Virus TI Synth'. You should be able to add that in preferences. So, please explain a bit more about precisely you are trying to hook up, so that I can better assist. Thanks, sorry I am a bit denser than usual today. Bob Bone
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 19:19:09
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Bob Access' Virus install notes do list the preferences set up steps for using Ti2 in Sonar. I also got nervous when I noticed ZERO Sonar stuff! I cannot check the boxes for using the Ti2 input and output drivers. Is that because my Tascam I/O inputs-outputs ARE already checked. I had not chosen the Ti2 as a midi input device when I tried. So, yes I am wanting to use the Virus Control inside Sonar, if I can. I know I can always tweak a patch and do the midi in and/or out with it, as I have done with my Kurzweil (I had 2 plus a maxed EMU Proteous 2500). I want to explore the tweaking inside Sonar in the same way, I RE-Amp my guitars-bass, on the spot, so to speak, via the Ti2's usb-Virus Control options. More? Michael
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 19:23:28
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I have installed Virus Control, and it shows up on the insert synths list. I cannot enable the drivers on the preferences page where the Tascam's inputs and outputs are. The Virus is there (both in and out and Ti2 and Snow which I am not sure why that is like that), but I cannot check the boxes. I had not added it as a midi input device at that point. Michael
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 19:26:22
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If they are ASIO devices, you can only have one enabled at a time.
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 19:35:38
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DuH! Thanks. I was hung up thinking only one usb I/O at a time (which is also true for Sonar? Yes?). I forgot about ASIO. I am not sure that I want to go (preamps, etc) into the inputs on the Virus, which would-could act as my audio interface via usb. I am completely new to the Virus, well for that matter X2PE and Win7hp 64bit, too. I've owned synths since the late '70s, and always played them into a track with simultaneous midi, to experiment with the midi track with new sounds-programs. I assumed the Virus Control would expand my options, perhaps it still will. Thanks Michael
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 19:41:34
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I do not believe there is a "one USB device" limit in SONAR.
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 19:43:24
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pentimentosound ...and Snow which I am not sure why that is like that), Hey Michael - long time Sonar/Virus TI2 user here. There aren't a lot of us here, so another is always a welcome sight. As for the Snow plugin, the software automatically installs both the Virus and Snow .dll's whenever you run the installer. If you don't have a Snow and don't plan on adding one, you're fine just deleting the Snow .dll from your vst folder (from both the 32-bit and 64-bit locations).
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 19:55:46
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Thanks cryophonik! Glad to hear it! Is there a simple to way to have my alternating uses, preset, in terms of ASIO drivers-input? Like the Tascam drivers being enabled, when I'm doing guitar, bass, vocals and then the Virus Control drivers, when I'm doing the Ti2? O r is it simply a matter of going to the Preferences page and selecting-deselecting? I am trying to plot using these various usb devices via usb, vs. plugging their outs into my Tascam I/O. This is what I have for now and want to use it optimally,until I get to upgrade my system again, later this year. The laptop will be my travelling workstation. I just bought it, first, while I research what to build for the next desktop, and what interface to get next. Michael
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 20:02:34
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You don't need to switch the audio drivers to use the TI2 in Virus Control mode. You would only switch the audio driver if you want to use the Virus TI2 as a soundcard for recording or monitoring. If you are only using it as a plugin via USB, insert the Virus plugin as a synth and it will automatically sync with the hardware. You'll then be hear the audio through your Tascam, just as you would with any other soft synth, the difference being that the Virus hardware is actually generating the sound and using its own processing power, rather than your CPU. Hopefully I understand your question correctly.
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 20:02:42
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scook I thought I wouldn't be able to input more than usb device into Sonar! Do you mean, that I could for example mic my amp via the Tascam usb and run the Mustang Floor's usb into another Sonar track and perhaps another from the Super Champs usb output?!?! I need to get clear about this, as my wife's setup will require a mic, plus stereo keyboard, and her guitar which she might like to sing while playing guitar to the drums on the keyboard. I don't try to talk her into anything! LOL Thanks Michael
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 20:11:27
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Oh that is very clear and REALLY helpful cryophonik! Thanks a lot for that! I have no experience with the Ti2 (or earlier versions), other than loving the sounds enough to buy it! As my wife likes to say, it is a "Big, in a HUGE way" step from my first SH101. I am curious about using it as an audio interface, though getting this new gear set up and working+ getting used to X2PE and finishing up our current project is my priority.
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 20:18:08
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Great, glad to hear that I could help clear up some confusion. BTW, I just noticed where you're from - I'm a fellow western Michigander, born and raised in Muskegon. I used to spend a lot of time up your way skiing, camping, flyfishing, going to the Dunes, etc. Lovely area.
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 20:18:42
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It is not the connector type that is the issue. Each of the devices you are describing are distinct audio interfaces. You could connect and use a USB midi device and a USB audio device no problem. But you are not going to be able to connect multiple USB audio devices and use them at the same time in ASIO mode.
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 20:30:27
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scook Thanks. That is what I thought I remembered ( tho I forgot that it was the ASIO issue)....only one audio interface at a time. So, I guess the question then is, 1. is the Ti2 acting as an audio interface via Virus Control? 2. both the Super Champ and Mustang Floor multiFX are audio interfaces. Do I have disable the Tascam's drivers or will simply not turning it on, while using them (one at a time!), work? That would also be true for the Ti2. 3. You are actually talking about playing ie a virtual synth via a midi keyboard, yes? This is all really helping! Some of this, I have not done in a while and some is completely new. Thanks to all! Michael
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 20:36:37
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We love it up here! Though we continually threaten to buy another RV and winter south or west and certainly, warmer! We are having a little blizzard at the moment, but don't have to go anywhere, which really takes the edge of that! I've spent a lot of my life in Michigan, after moving up from Chicago, and have moved back from New England, Austin, New Mexico, Colorado, and Washington state, though we talk about the northwest often.....we did this morning! Thanks for your help! I will PM you once I mess with a little and want more info on it! I listened to the track on your page. Nice! Michael
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 20:42:15
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1) I cannot speak to Virus specifically.
2) Anything that is plugged into the computer sending audio to SONAR is an audio interface. You will have to enable/disable their inputs in the SONAR preferences screen to record each device. You can leave the Tascam setup as audio out for monitoring.
3) MIDI can be for softsynth, controlling some effects plugins and possibly the Virus if it can be used as a external sound source.
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Re:Access Virus Ti2 in SonarX2A PE +usb issues and options
2013/02/14 21:18:59
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I believe that the solution was posted earlier. You should be able to leave the Tascam as your ASIO device, and insert the Virus Control as a soft synth. You can have a zillion USB devices - only ONE ASIO device can be used at a time. So your other USB connections, like from your Fender, are fine. I have a Presonus ASIO interface plugged in with USB, and my Yamaha midi keyboard is also plugged in as USB. Here is what that phonik guy posted earlier: "You don't need to switch the audio drivers to use the TI2 in Virus Control mode. You would only switch the audio driver if you want to use the Virus TI2 as a soundcard for recording or monitoring. If you are only using it as a plugin via USB, insert the Virus plugin as a synth and it will automatically sync with the hardware. You'll then be hear the audio through your Tascam, just as you would with any other soft synth, the difference being that the Virus hardware is actually generating the sound and using its own processing power, rather than your CPU. Hopefully I understand your question correctly." Read the above carefully - this is what will work for you to control the TI2 through Sonar, WHILE using the Tascam as your actual selected ASIO device in Sonar. Make the Virus Control insert as a synth. It is a PLUGIN. So, please give the above a shot and post back with results, Bob Bone
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