zoobooboozoo
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What PSU to get for my new build?
Hi all. the build is in my sig. + I have 2 DVD burners and a firebox interface I've searched the forum. google etc. but didn't find too much updates information that is DAW-Oriented. So I wanted to know what PSU should I get for my system that will be reliable and silent and appropriate for a DAW. Budge: ~50$ Power Needed: less than 350W(According to this calc: link) Would I benefit from buying a 450 or 500 or more Power Supply? or the bigger, the noisier? Thanks, ZBBZ. EDIT: Also, should I get a CPU fan? is it possible to get a cenet, quiet one for ~10$ ?
post edited by zoobooboozoo - 2013/02/16 09:50:03
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/16 10:14:08
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Avoid the inexpensive power supplies as they tend to be overrated (watts) and have poor DC voltage regulation.
I'm using a 620 watt modular Antec "gamer" quiet power supply in my DAW system. Size is not a factor in how quiet or noisy it is. Better to "over power" to future proof (any future add ons) rather than just get the minimum and then have to upgrade later. If you get a minimum power rated power supply it could be working at or near maximum and that would cause more heat and thus the fan(s) run faster and noisier. You want a modular to eliminate all the extra/unused power leads that have to be stuffed inside a case.
I have a Corsair modular power supply in another recent build (with an i5 3550 CPU) and it too is quiet.
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/16 10:40:58
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Huge capacity power supplies are built for one thing, high power draw video cards for gaming. Your system would be fine with 500W or even less. My DAW is running off a decent 350W supply and I have a higher power draw CPU than you do.
500W is the typical capacity these days, so that's about where your best value will be. Go for a good reputable brand and good active PFC efficiency, like 80+ rating. Corsair, Thermaltake, Antec, Seasonic, Enermax are decent brands, to name a few. Supplies with a large fan on the side instead of the small one exhasting out the rear will be quieter.
For a CPU heatsink, the stock Intel's are OK, but you can get a quieter one. The tower style heat sinks with the fan that attaches to the side, pointing at the exhaust fan in the back of your case work really well. Thermaltake makes some good ones with reasonable prices, about $30-$40. The bigger more expensive one's are really only worthwhile if you're overclocking.
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/16 11:43:57
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If you were to total up the power consumption for all the components in your computer, you'd probably find that it comes to well under 300W. Any old PSU would therefore seem to be adequate.
However, the problem is that the intake fan on a PSU is out of sight and if the box is sitting on a carpeted floor will quickly accumulate dust that restricts airflow. You can have a PSU that's operating at dangerously high temperatures and not know it. And once the thermal overload relay is tripped, you immediately lose whatever you were working on. This can occur with any PSU, but an oversized PSU can be abused a lot longer before it fails.
The real moral is that if you haven't had a look at the back of your computer in a while, it's probably a good idea to get in there with a vacuum cleaner.
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/17 07:33:09
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Big box=big fan=quiet operation! After getting a new CPU cooler, my PSU is actually the loudest component in my case. Time to upgrade to one with a 135 mm fan!
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/18 06:45:37
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Seasonic = quality It's the best!!! Get the X series or Platinum http://www.seasonicusa.com/X.htm Trust me I have tried a bunch! Stay away from "Coolmaster". Those PSU sucks bigtime and the fans sounds like jetplan! Other stuff Coolmaster do are really good like their fulltower chassi.  Corsair and the up commer Fractal Design seem good too.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/18 09:35:05
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 87 Amps on the "traditional" design??? Someone isn't telling the truth.... well, actually it's more like they are lying through their teeth. I'll wait and read the magazine reviews before I decide. ;-)
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/18 10:32:53
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i used this:
Thermaltake TR2 RX W0134RU 550W ATX12V Ver2.2 SLI Ready Modular Passive PFC PFC Power Supply
i've been real happy with it.
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tlw
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/18 16:57:32
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Seasonic fanless, 460watt version.
Absolutely silent, just make sure the case airflow is sufficient to remove the heat (though my Seasonic actually runs pretty cool). Cases with the psu at the lower rear help with this.
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Freddie H
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/18 19:42:48
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87 Amps on the "traditional" design???
Someone isn't telling the truth.... well, actually it's more like they are lying through their teeth.
I'll wait and read the magazine reviews before I decide. ;-)
Wait? Its has been out for over two years with fantastic reviews. Actually I use the X series myself with my DAW setup and I couldn't be happier! No one is lying here it's called build quality!
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/18 19:47:42
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My comment wasn't about the X series... it was about the explanation of the Traditional Modular Design seeming over the top. A well built power supply will last for years and years... being happy with one should be the norm. :-) best regards, mike edit grammar
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Freddie H
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/22 09:14:46
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mike_mccue
My comment wasn't about the X series... it was about the explanation of the Traditional Modular Design seeming over the top.
A well built power supply will last for years and years... being happy with one should be the norm. :-)
best regards,
mike
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/22 09:30:11
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Hi Freddie, FWIW, I have since learned that my initial reaction was a bit hasty. Although no one seems to actually uses all the power on a ATX12V 2.x power lead the current design does allow for 6 amps per connection on the Molex block. When you add up all 13 connectors that have voltage on them and multiply that by 6 you do get a maximum of 78amps available to the motherboard on a ATX12V 2.x connector I must admit... that took me by surprise... I didn't think the wires could do it. That's why they added the extra 4 wires a few years back. If I had understood that several days ago my reaction would have been different. I still think the presentation is deceptive and disingenuous... comparing 20amp at 120vAC to 87amp at low voltage DC is comparing apples and oranges. It's not really a comparison... it's a circus show. all the best, mike
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Freddie H
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Re:What PSU to get for my new build?
2013/02/22 12:33:12
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mike_mccue
Hi Freddie,
FWIW, I have since learned that my initial reaction was a bit hasty.
Although no one seems to actually uses all the power on a ATX12V 2.x power lead the current design does allow for 6 amps per connection on the Molex block. When you add up all 13 connectors that have voltage on them and multiply that by 6 you do get a maximum of 78amps available to the motherboard on a ATX12V 2.x connector
I must admit... that took me by surprise... I didn't think the wires could do it. That's why they added the extra 4 wires a few years back.
If I had understood that several days ago my reaction would have been different.
I still think the presentation is deceptive and disingenuous... comparing 20amp at 120vAC to 87amp at low voltage DC is comparing apples and oranges. It's not really a comparison... it's a circus show.
all the best,
mike
Hi Mike and cheers! Interesting. I'm buy it mostly because of the quality not the amps. The latest CPUs need more amps too though. But why buy Sesonic or Coirsair. You know what you get when you buy Seasonics and those brands. It's like same with cars like BMW and Mercedes and Audi. Of course other cars run and work too and can be at least as good but you know what you get when you buy a BMW. Same with PSU. Have a great weekend Mike! Best Regards Freddie
post edited by Freddie H - 2013/02/22 12:35:22
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