The first experiment.

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2013/02/22 17:39:12 (permalink)

The first experiment.

First off, I do not believe that Cakewalk is dying or going away any time soon.

I am NOT leaving SONAR as my main DAW.

But I did start my experiment of recording a full song in that PeaSomus Pro 2.5 product. It's a new original.

So far I have recorded a rhythm guitar track to a click track. No surprise there; it sounded just as fine as it would have in SOINAR.

I added FX inserts. Of course nothing shocking there. Similar drag and drop from the browser like SONAR.

My "setup" issues were minor. My transport and fader controls via the Tascam FW-1884 only required that I set the FW-1884 to Mackie HUI emulation mode (of course I'll have to remember to switch back for SOANR, or examine how SONAR can accept Mackie HUI commands from my FW-1884). I read a fred on the PeaSomus forum about how to have the FW-1884 learn the S1 keyboard shortcuts, so that is something down the road when I want to do more sophisticated controller things in the mixing stage.

And since I also have a Frontier Tranzport (a gift from Mooch) I can just use that for transport control during tracking. Which I tried out for one take of the rhythm guitar. Worked as expected.

Next step is to record some drums and/or percussion to the song then some bazz and probably piano. Of course drums/perc will be MIDI, maybe me playing my kit (we'll see). As well the piano will be MIDI too.

Then wrap it up with some vox (uh oh, Mooch is gonna hate that I'm going to claim to be singing again).

As you can tell, the plan is for this to be all me. No collabs on this experiment. Maybe it will be a demo for a SONAR collab. Maybe not.

In the meantime I am working with Philz on a new original of his in SONAR.



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    craigb
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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/22 18:39:05 (permalink)
    Not real sure what this fred has to do with becan...  I think I'll just have to wait and see what develops.

     
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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/22 19:24:03 (permalink)
    Just one question Ed: who is this SOINAR you speak about?

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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/22 19:30:52 (permalink)
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    Just one question Ed: who is this SOINAR you speak about?

    Just testing to see who is awake and who isn't.


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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/22 19:41:35 (permalink)
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    alexoosthoek


    Just one question Ed: who is this SOINAR you speak about?

    Just testing to see who is awake and who isn't.


    Yeah, roight

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    Some Live Demo's


    Various ADK computers   and some thingy's
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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/22 19:59:25 (permalink)
    So, are you missing anything that Sonar has and Studio One doesn't?

    Or is it basically same functions, different way of working them type of thing?

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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/22 20:03:10 (permalink)
    Almost forgot the most important question......












    Does their forum software suck too or are we the lucky ones?

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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/22 20:09:32 (permalink)
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    So, are you missing anything that Sonar has and Studio One doesn't?

    Or is it basically same functions, different way of working them type of thing?

    Mike?

    So far, the latter.
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    Almost forgot the most important question......

    Does their forum software suck too or are we the lucky ones?

    Mike! 

    Pfft. No posting on the forum yet. Just a peepeeping tom voyeur.
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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/22 20:32:10 (permalink)
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    First off, I do not believe that Cakewalk is dying or going away any time soon.

    I am NOT leaving SONAR as my main DAW.

    But I did start my experiment of recording a full song in that PeaSomus Pro 2.5 product. It's a new original.

    So far I have recorded a rhythm guitar track to a click track. No surprise there; it sounded just as fine as it would have in SOINAR.

    I added FX inserts. Of course nothing shocking there. Similar drag and drop from the browser like SONAR.

    My "setup" issues were minor. My transport and fader controls via the Tascam FW-1884 only required that I set the FW-1884 to Mackie HUI emulation mode (of course I'll have to remember to switch back for SOANR, or examine how SONAR can accept Mackie HUI commands from my FW-1884). I read a fred on the PeaSomus forum about how to have the FW-1884 learn the S1 keyboard shortcuts, so that is something down the road when I want to do more sophisticated controller things in the mixing stage.

    And since I also have a Frontier Tranzport (a gift from Mooch) I can just use that for transport control during tracking. Which I tried out for one take of the rhythm guitar. Worked as expected.

    Next step is to record some drums and/or percussion to the song then some bazz and probably piano. Of course drums/perc will be MIDI, maybe me playing my kit (we'll see). As well the piano will be MIDI too.

    Then wrap it up with some vox (uh oh, Mooch is gonna hate that I'm going to claim to be singing again).

    As you can tell, the plan is for this to be all me. No collabs on this experiment. Maybe it will be a demo for a SONAR collab. Maybe not.

    In the meantime I am working with Philz on a new original of his in SONAR.


    I agree, Cakewalk isn't going away any time soon. And I plan to stick with SONAR for quite a while, though it will be interesting to see what happens in about 12 months from now. 

    Read a 
    review at SOS and I lurked around on the Premonus forums and came across an interesting thread in regards to how well Studio One handles large and complex projects. 

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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/22 21:23:08 (permalink)
    SongCraft

    ... I lurked around on the Premonus forums and came across an interesting thread in regards to how well Studio One handles large and complex projects.
    System specs please.




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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/23 00:10:55 (permalink)
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    SongCraft

    ... I lurked around on the Premonus forums and came across an interesting thread in regards to how well Studio One handles large and complex projects.
    System specs please.


    I've already 'demoed' Presonus Studio using XP, 32, (older system for example; 2.gig Ram), loaded up multiple audio tracks, several instrument plugins and effects such as T-Racks and Ozone.  The system handled it all surprisingly well, performance meters well below 50 percent. And I didn't experience any sluggish UI behavior (as mentioned in that thread)..... continue..... 

    To be fair, I trialed the demo and I should point out that I didn't have Melodyne ARA activated and my guess is that would drain a lot on system resources however, Melodyne can be disabled/enabled in preferences.  For XP 32 users with minimal ram working with Melodyne should still be doable, for more info please visit Celemony's site. 

    Specs According to Presonus website: 

    WINDOWS® XP, VISTA®, 7 (32- OR 64-BIT)
    Hardware Minimum
    Intel Core Duo or AMD Athlon® X2 processor
    2 GB RAM
    Hardware Recommended
    Intel Core 2 Quad or AMD Athlon X4 or better
    4 GB RAM
    OTHER REQUIREMENTS
    Internet connection (not required on machine where Studio One is installed but needed for activation)
    DVD-ROM drive
    A monitor resolution no lower than 1280 x 768 pixels
    20 GB hard-drive space

    See Details - Watch Videos - System Specs - Download Demo


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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/23 01:08:57 (permalink)
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    Bub
    SongCraft

    ... I lurked around on the Premonus forums and came across an interesting thread in regards to how well Studio One handles large and complex projects.
    System specs please.
    I've already 'demoed' Presonus Studio using XP, 32, (older system for example; 2.gig Ram), loaded up multiple audio tracks, several instrument plugins and effects such as T-Racks and Ozone.  The system handled it all surprisingly well, performance meters well below 50 percent. And I didn't experience any sluggish UI behavior (as mentioned in that thread)..... continue..... 

    To be fair, I trialed the demo and I should point out that I didn't have Melodyne ARA activated and my guess is that would drain a lot on system resources however, Melodyne can be disabled/enabled in preferences.  For XP 32 users with minimal ram working with Melodyne should still be doable, for more info please visit Celemony's site. 

    Specs According to Presonus website: 

    WINDOWS® XP, VISTA®, 7 (32- OR 64-BIT)
    Hardware Minimum
    Intel Core Duo or AMD Athlon® X2 processor
    2 GB RAM
    Hardware Recommended
    Intel Core 2 Quad or AMD Athlon X4 or better
    4 GB RAM
    OTHER REQUIREMENTS
    Internet connection (not required on machine where Studio One is installed but needed for activation)
    DVD-ROM drive
    A monitor resolution no lower than 1280 x 768 pixels
    20 GB hard-drive space

    See Details - Watch Videos - System Specs - Download Demo
    I was jokin' 'round with ya.  There's a few guys upstairs that won't even comment on anything unless you give them your system specs.

    I hear nothing bug good things about S1 2.4. I bought a version of it but haven't used it in a long time. I use The Big 'R' from time to time. Done a few small projects in it. I should load it up again and check it out a little more closely now that I have some free time on my hands.

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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/23 02:35:34 (permalink)
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    I was jokin' 'round with ya.  There's a few guys upstairs that won't even comment on anything unless you give them your system specs.  


    Like Ron Jeremy?


     
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    Re:The first experiment. 2013/02/23 11:34:08 (permalink)
       
         Well then, show them da' specs: 




     
     
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