R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a

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2013/02/24 04:36:15 (permalink)

R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a

Is anyone else experiencing R-Mix Sonar having a blank centre when your projects get to about 4Gb.
 
You start a project and early on add R-Mix Sonar which behaves normally. Later on when your project has grown (with instrument and effects plugins) to around 4Gb of memory. You find that R-Mix Sonar is displayed with a blank centre where the graphic display should be.
 
I have encountered this problem with another plugin EAReverb by Eareckon in Sonar X1 last year. When Sonar memory use increased, EaReverb was displayed as an image that was not refreshed correctly. Some controls not responding and some graphics missing. Exactly whats happening to R-Mix. This was solved by a software update to EARverb.
 
I have reported this to Cakewalk support.
 
Is anyone else experiencing this or other graphics problems with Sonar X2a?.
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    Re:R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a 2013/02/24 09:05:00 (permalink)
    aries, is this with Sonar x64 or the 32 bit version? I've not seen any weirdness on my end, but I'll look for it now that you've brought it up.

    R-Mix isn't something I use often, but the times I have used it...I've brought it into large projects just messing with it and can't recall anything out of the ordinary. I'll check it out though and post back if I see anything. It's good you reported it as that's the best way to handle it. Even if they don't fix it right away (if it's a bug) at least they've logged it.

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    Re:R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a 2013/02/24 12:59:04 (permalink)
    Computer specs? 32 or 64 bit version?

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    Re:R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a 2013/02/24 13:18:29 (permalink)
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    aries, is this with Sonar x64 or the 32 bit version? I've not seen any weirdness on my end, but I'll look for it now that you've brought it up.

    R-Mix isn't something I use often, but the times I have used it...I've brought it into large projects just messing with it and can't recall anything out of the ordinary. I'll check it out though and post back if I see anything. It's good you reported it as that's the best way to handle it. Even if they don't fix it right away (if it's a bug) at least they've logged it.

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    Re:R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a 2013/02/24 15:55:14 (permalink)
    Not enough info.

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    Re:R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a 2013/02/24 16:22:39 (permalink)
    Intel Q9450 Quad processor, 8Gb ram, Win 7 64Bit Home Premium Edition, Nvida Geforce graphics, up to date drivers for graphics and Asus motherboard.
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    Re:R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a 2013/02/24 18:26:04 (permalink)
    That doesn't surprise me aries....I get all sorts of weird stuff with x64 that NEVER happens in Sonar 32. Here's a prime example...the whole driver page just disappeared on me one day.

    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4909348/MissinDriverOptions.JPG

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    Re:R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a 2013/02/25 03:27:14 (permalink)
    My RAM usage was 3.6Gb and my Sonar CPU meter was about 80 to 90% on the 4 indicators, when the grayed out centre of R-Mix happened .

    If anybody wants to try and replicate this concentrate on getting your Sonar CPU meter to these high levels using high usage CPU plugins.
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    Re:R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a 2013/02/25 09:07:48 (permalink)
    Are you running Sonar 32 bit or 64 bit? That's the most important thing. If you're running 32-bit Sonar, then it can only use 3GB of memory and that could be causing your problem. 

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    Re:R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a 2013/02/25 11:03:47 (permalink)
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    Are you running Sonar 32 bit or 64 bit? That's the most important thing. If you're running 32-bit Sonar, then it can only use 3GB of memory and that could be causing your problem. 
     
    Running Windows 7 64Bit, Sonar 64Bit. Only happens when CPU usage get high 80-90%.

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    Re:R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a 2013/02/25 16:38:32 (permalink)
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    That doesn't surprise me aries....I get all sorts of weird stuff with x64 that NEVER happens in Sonar 32. Here's a prime example...the whole driver page just disappeared on me one day.

    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4909348/MissinDriverOptions.JPG

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    Re:R-Mix blank centre in large projects, Sonar X2a 2013/02/25 19:13:56 (permalink)
    aries


    Is anyone else experiencing R-Mix Sonar having a blank centre when your projects get to about 4Gb.
     
    You start a project and early on add R-Mix Sonar which behaves normally. Later on when your project has grown (with instrument and effects plugins) to around 4Gb of memory. You find that R-Mix Sonar is displayed with a blank centre where the graphic display should be.
     
    I have encountered this problem with another plugin EAReverb by Eareckon in Sonar X1 last year. When Sonar memory use increased, EaReverb was displayed as an image that was not refreshed correctly. Some controls not responding and some graphics missing. Exactly whats happening to R-Mix. This was solved by a software update to EARverb.
     
    I have reported this to Cakewalk support.
     
    Is anyone else experiencing this or other graphics problems with Sonar X2a?.
    Yes I have !.
     
    I hadn't narrowed it down to the size of the project, but it is definitely a large project.
     
    I discovered the problem with the "Blank R-Mix" when I tried to insert several instances of R-Mix on various tracks of a large project.
    The results were random, resulting in a blank centre on almost every instance.
     
    I then opened a brand new project, inserted a bunch of tracks, and a bunch of R-Mix instances ... and they all appeared fine.
    So I wasn't sure whether it was a project corruption, or some other issue - now I have a better idea :-).
     
    Thanks mate - log a problem report when I get home tonight ... need that one fixed.
     
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