X2a (64) - 32-bit VSTs crashing... HELP!!!! ADVICE??????

Hello, wonderful helpful folks.
I'm having difficulties with Sonar X2a Producer (64 bit) and 32-bit VST soft-synths.
I have 4 stereo wav files, about 10 MIDI tracks playing drum & percussion parts to a BOSS DR-660 drum machine, and could get one of these VST's to work..... for a while. Crashed.
Got things up & running again, and added a second 32-bit VST. Worked for a short while, then havoc attacked.
Restarted computer & Sonar, muted the first 2 VST's, and added a third 32-bit VST synth. Was able to record the MIDI track for that, but when done, the song would play for about 4-5 seconds, then havoc attacked again....
Define havoc? the wave & MIDI tracks always played just fine... The NI Pro-53 VST soft synth would chirp and stuff, The Arturia CS-80VST would chirp as well, and the Arturia Minimoog VST would just mute/die. Those 3 instruments are 32-bit, and might be considered too old for a 64-bit DAW...?

SYSTEM & SETTINGS:
PC - AMD Phenom II CPU, 4 cores, OC to 3.7 Ghz
16GB RAM at 1600 speed, 1GB 7200rpm SATA II HD (SATA II motherboard), 32GB SSD SATA 3 (attached to SATA 3 card) - fully allocated to Windows Virtual Mem
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit, Sonar X2a 64-bit
Soundcard - EGOSYS Waveterminal 192L - loaded with latest 64-bit driver and controller software - MIDI and 4x10 audio (including S/PDIF) (The driver is current, but the hardware dates back to 2001 or so...)
I had the Sonar driver set to ASIO, and reasonable buffer settings.

I did some research, found something on ASIO4ALL, loaded the latest beta of that, changed settings, etc......, Had the same problems.

I then figured, perhaps it's my ancient audio card. So, I purchased a Lexicon Omega, plugged that in, installed the latest driver for it from Lexicon, removed ASIO4ALL, and disabled the Waveterminal card. Changed what I needed to in Sonar for the Omega, and.... Exact same crap happened!!!!

SOOOOO what's the story? Do older 32-bit VST soft-synths crap out when you try to load more than one in X2a 64?

I ALSO had issues recording the drum machine output as audio. Seemed the more tracks there were, the more it crashed.

Another note: When Sonar would crap out, you had to COMPLETELY shut down the PC in order for audio to start working again when you restarted everything. What's up with that?

I'm in serious need of help...... What should I do/try? ASIO4ALL again (which would lock up with the Omega....)? Sonar X2a 32-bit? I have lots of the older 32-bit VST soft-synths... that I would hate to not be able to use...

Please help.......
Thanks everyone!!!

Thanks, bud.
I forked out $20 for jBridge, did what I was supposed to with that, and, same problems!!!! 
Question: Can I install BOTH 32 AND 64 bit versions of Sonar X2a on the same machine?

Hi JTMusicVA,

This is a common problem with 32bit VST's.

I recently changed some settings and got good results.

Try this ...

Do a search on your system and find 'Bitbridge.exe'. Right click on it and go to properties. Set it to 'Run as Administrator' and set Compatibility mode for 'Windows XP Compatibility'.

Doing that helped a lot on my system.

I never used Jbridge ... so I don't know how that works so I would try what I suggested with Bitbridge first. If that doesn't help, find the Jbridge executable file and change the same settings.

Please report back if you try this and let us know how it worked out. I had good results doing this and would to know if it helps in your case as well.

Thanks,

Good luck.

Bub

I still have issues with 64-Bit Waves plug-ins frequently crashing Sonar X2/X2a

JTMusicVA



You HAVE to shut the machine down (power down) and start up again.
Is there a way to properly reset something somewhere so you don't have to power down?

Try 'Logging Off' instead of restarting. Works for me and is much quicker. 

Hey guys....
Thanks for the tips & advice - greatly appreciated!
Yes, have latest drivers for audio hardware.
I'm sure jBridge is running the VSTi - when I go to synth properties and the synth comes up, the bottom of the synth window has a bar for jBridge.

What I DID achieve success with is, I installed the 32-bit version of Sonar X2 (and patched with X2a).
I was able to open the project file that was giving me trouble in x64 directly, and, I had no problems! The CPU bars were going pretty crazy, and there were a couple dropouts during playback, but ZERO CRASHES!!!! Woo-hoo!!


I will try alternate (older) drivers just for the heck of it and see what happens in X2a x64, and make sure BitBridge is off, and see if I can get the 32-bit VSTi's to behave in X2a x64 (and report on that...)

Thanks guys!!!

Im wondering if I should upgrade to more than 4 gb ram using x64. but because of all the issues with bitbridge and stuff i´m afraid I will keep x32 with minimum ram, that was my doubt on my post a few minutes ago.

JPPG - First step is to absolutely increase your RAM to 4GB (although all of it won't be seen by 32-bit OS) Still worth doing.

I went through the same crap for about 6 months till I got tired of losing my effing work.
Jbridge and Bitbridge are both basically worthless.  They have only worked flawlessly with a very small handful of 32-bit vst's, in my experience.
I know it sucks, but your gonna have to cut the 32-bit string if you don't want to lose work and reboot your pc every time Sonar crashes.  
End Of Story.