how to save the project from the control surface (A-500PRO)

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2013/03/06 13:02:03 (permalink)

how to save the project from the control surface (A-500PRO)

This is probably a silly question, but I'm having a hard time finding an answer because the signal-to-noise ratio is so low. I'm searching for terms like: save, file, project. The search engine is not being kind to me in the results. ;)

Anyway, I've got a Roland A-500PRO, and it's working great. ACT works, I can use the control strip above the keys to do things like play/pause, rewind, stop, etc. But something obvious is missing. How do I SAVE MY SONAR PROJECT after a good take?

I know I can setup the 8 pads on the right as control buttons and can assign File-Save to one of those. But I'd rather not change those unless I have to, since I'd like to use them as Notes rather than buttons sometimes.

What I'm wondering is why it's not setup already. Isn't File-Save the MOST important thing you can do from a control surface, right after you record a take? I'm thinking there must be some keypress combination on the A-PRO that saves the project in Sonar. Or something else that's so obvious that they don't even mention it.

How do you A-PRO users out there save your Sonar projects while sitting at the control surface? I'm trying to give up using the mouse while at the MIDI controller. Is it possible?
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    icontakt
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    Re:how to save the project from the control surface (A-500PRO) 2013/03/06 18:12:56 (permalink)
    Maybe assign File-Save to one of L1-L8 buttons? In my case, I just press Ctrl+S since I have a keyboard shelf that pulls out from under the A-Pro .
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    Re:how to save the project from the control surface (A-500PRO) 2013/03/07 01:26:49 (permalink)
    I think the whole idea of a control surface that you can control the program without needing a keyboard and mouse, so I'm trying not to use those. I can re-program a touchpad, but I was hoping there was something more basic, and sort of front-and-center, for such a vital command. I would have thought it would be already programmed to be honest.

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    Re:how to save the project from the control surface (A-500PRO) 2013/03/07 07:09:06 (permalink)
    Waltenstein Studios


    I think the whole idea of a control surface that you can control the program without needing a keyboard and mouse, so I'm trying not to use those.  

    I don't know if this is true. I think a control surface is mainly to control faders, knobs etc. on the virtual console (in a daw) as if you are operating a real mixer. The knobs on the A-PRO (R1-R9) represent knobs on a console (pan, EQ, etc.), rack effects/dynamics processors (comp, reverb, etc.), hardware synths, and so on, and the sliders (S1-S9) represent faders on the console, and the buttons (L1-L9) represent buttons on a tape deck, and the pads (A1-A8) represent....maybe electric drums? And if you think about it, there's no 'Save' button in a real studio (I mean studios in the old days when they didn't use daws), so that't why I think the File>Save menu is available as just one of options that you can assign to buttons or pads.


    Maybe the Auto-Save feature in Sonar can help you? If you use that, you won't have to do anything. The project saves itself.


    Sorry if my explanation wasn't good enough. I did my best.  


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    Re:how to save the project from the control surface (A-500PRO) 2013/03/07 08:38:48 (permalink)
    Thanks for your replies Jlien X.

    There's no real reason why the control surface can't/shouldn't be used to save the project. And that's the only thing missing from the default button assignments, if you think about it. I'm just surprised it's missing at all. ;)

    Once I assign File-Save to a button on my A-500PRO, I don't need the mouse or computer keyboard at all, except to add or modify instruments, or to do mixing/mastering.

    In fact, even basic mixing can be done quite well using the surface's sliders and buttons. Of course you'd still need the computer keyboard/mouse to do more hardcore editing or adding FX.

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    Re:how to save the project from the control surface (A-500PRO) 2013/03/07 08:50:33 (permalink)

    Thanks. Well, File-Save may be important, but in my case, I was more surprised (or 'disappointed' to be more precise) that A-Pro has these limitations/inconveniences...
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    Re:how to save the project from the control surface (A-500PRO) 2013/03/07 09:03:02 (permalink)
    why not just use the keyboard command CNTR+S

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    Re:how to save the project from the control surface (A-500PRO) 2013/03/07 09:45:54 (permalink)
    Because that would require an additional piece of hardware I have to keep within arms reach during a take. I want to sit by my midi controller, while my computer keyboard is elsewhere.

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