STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please!

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2013/03/06 21:01:10 (permalink)

STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please!

Well...I for the life of me cannot get my APRO 800 to trigger SI or SD3...either I am a moron and cannot follow directions or I just don't understand...is there a setting in my APRO that needs to be changed? It plays piano and DIM Pro, Rapture, etc...but not drums...I'll take any other advice...I went through the last thread and tried to work through everything said there....still no go.

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/06 21:08:17 (permalink)
    Well...headed to bed and will try again tomorrow...I'm close to kicking my DAW in the screen!

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/06 22:33:47 (permalink)

    Sorry if I'm stating the obvious...


    If you're using Session Drummer 3, you have to load a program before it will make any sound. The sounds are mapped across most of the keyboard. 

    As for SI Drums, it has a limited range so you have to use notes from C0 to C3. 


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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/06 22:42:45 (permalink)
    Frosty,did you watch that video in my sig i was telling to check out?
    its the same thing,just use your keyboard in this example instead of the drum machine  :)

    youve gone to preferences and set up the A-Pro,correct?
    you have it checked off ?

    keep in mind also that not the whole keyboard are the drums,only a certain section,try using the octave up/down arrows,try all keys.
    the A-pro also might be in some setting where its locked in an upper octave,thats why i say,use the up/down arrows to range the octaves.

    if it gets real bad,message me and tell me where you live,if the phone bills is within reason i can call you and walk you through it.
     
    keep in mind frosty,something a lot of users do is forget the "input echo button"(okay,so im the "a lot of users")
    without this button engaged,you'll hear nada bro.
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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 01:52:16 (permalink)
    Another thing to check is the channel. Some drum machines/synths will only respond to channel 10.

    Assuming not much has changed since the PCR you can either change the pads to transmit on that channel or change the keyboard globally. It's one of the buttons in combo with the rotary on the  PCR, probably similar on the A-PRO
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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 08:11:10 (permalink)
    Thank you Karl and Charlie...I am aware of everything you guys have said and maybe there is just some strange thing I have overlooked...I may take you up on that call Charlie and thanks again...you guys have no idea what you do for us that really have no other place for solutions other than here...you make music creation absolutely a blast! You truly are valued among some of us! I hope one day I can turn around and help others that will be whewre I am now...mostly lost! But I am still learning and will always be trying to keep learning!

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 08:15:02 (permalink)
    Wow..too much coffee and it shows in my grammar! LOL

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 08:15:42 (permalink)
    frostman,
    you got a great tube brotha.

    that alone will take you places when becoming a great producer/engineer using sonar  :)

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 09:03:56 (permalink)
    Tube? Well thanks...that's getting a bit personal...;-P

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 09:24:37 (permalink)
    haaaa.

    correction,tude.

    its still early.


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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 09:33:47 (permalink)
    Frostysnake


    Tube? Well thanks...that's getting a bit personal...;-P

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    I was thinking the same thing. 


    Oh man!  That just made my morning.


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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 09:38:08 (permalink)
    5 minutes later and I'm still snickering.  

    Ahhh.. Yeah... That was good!  Always good when you hope on the internet and something like that makes your day!


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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 10:32:51 (permalink)
    Yeah...Charlie definitely made a funny...I had I nice laugh as well..HA!

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 10:48:10 (permalink)
    no..you made the funny bro...i laughed at that for 10 minutes myself,i almost went back and edited it but its to classic to remove.

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 11:07:47 (permalink)
    I am glad you didn't edit...I am going to revisit this one over a beer this evening for sure...classic no doubt!

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 11:09:08 (permalink)
    ..and I think this might open up the flood gates for "accidental" typos in the future...hahahaha

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 11:29:55 (permalink)
    I know you've been inundated with instructions so sorry if I'm repeating stuff you have tried but here goes:

    The controller should be set to transmit MIDI on OMNI, ( read manual )
    If using MIDI use keyboards MIDI OUT and run to the MOTO midi IN
    You should now see action in the MIDI icon down in the tray. 
     
    The MIDI track input set to either your interfaces MIDI input ( MOTU Midi in)  or  the keyboard ( Roland A 800 ) if it  uses USB.  

    Set the input channel to OMNI to rule out channel assignment being issue) 
    Load Session Drummer go the the GUI and load a drum kit into it, test output with mouse. 
    Put focus on the MIDI track, Turn on input echo, set output to Session drummer
     and it should now respond. 


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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 12:32:24 (permalink)
    Just a quick question Frosty,

    Everyone has covered my thoughts on it already.

    When you hit the keys on the A-Pro, do you see anything at all happening like say the Kick Beater or cymbols moving, or anything ales outside of just NO sound ouput?


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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 12:39:22 (permalink)
    Have you selected/assigned a Program to the kit as suggested above?

    You can see what we are talking about at the 1:42 mark on this video on assigning one.  The rest is for something else on the video but atleast you can see the assigning part to "Programs".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHPDQCtYE2Q


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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 12:41:44 (permalink)
    Charlie goes over it at marker 1:10 as well

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjZS61Wg-XY


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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 13:33:51 (permalink)
    Okay, Just went a checked mine (which is the PCR 500-Same as the A-Pro500/800 minus a few keys). 
    Hasnt even been set-up on this computer before.
    Downloaded Driver for PCR500
    Powered PCR500 on
    Loaded X1
    Went to Preferences/MIDI/and checked the PCR stuff for Playback and Record
    Went to Insert
    Inserted Softsynth/SessionDrummer64
    Loaded Program as talked about above
    Made sure Input Echo was lit up Blue/On
    Tested keys-Movement on screen and sound

    Had slight delay cause of other plugs loaded-Hit the [FX] in the control bar,  No echo at all, sounds are as soon as you hit the keys.

    Im assuming most of yours is good cause it will play the other synths so its gotta be something with the way the program is loading?   Just guessing

    Ill check back later and see if you came up with anything yet  

    Your in good company here with everyone else though,  Smart bunch of good peeps  




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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/07 15:33:47 (permalink)
    I was able to duplicate Losing the keys strokes but keep being able to mouse to get tones by powering off and on the keyboard.

    I had to close all the way out of Sonar

    Turn Power On to A-Pro

    Launch Sonar

    Bring your project back up 

    Make sure you have input echo turned back on

    And it fixed the lose of key strokes being able to trigger soft synths 


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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/08 07:37:36 (permalink)
    Thanks again for the additional replys! (Digi2ns) I have been busy and haven't had much time the last couple of days...I will be back at it this weekends and report back...thank you all very much!

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/08 07:39:53 (permalink)
    Mornin' Frosty

    Your welcome,

    Ill check back as well to see if I can help at all if ya need me to verify something on mine


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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/09 09:42:32 (permalink)
    frosty,

    here you go buddy,this should clear up some questions you have.

    editing midi using a keyboard with SI Drums:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k83UVo1OiKA

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    Re:STILL pretty lost...cannot trigger any drum synth with A-Pro...HELP please! 2013/03/09 11:04:47 (permalink)
    Also, drums usually have to be on MIDI channel 10. 

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