redbarchetta
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Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
I was wondering if there is a "mastering" eq included with Sonar. I know there are a few different EQ's, but not sure if any of them were designed specifically towards mastering. If not, I have the free version of IK Multimedia's mastering EQ. Not sure how well regarded it is though. It was free so I grabbed it.
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 00:18:26
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redbarchetta
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 00:24:28
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 00:30:01
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Yea, the LP stuff (and concrete limiter) are SONAR's mastering tools. They are Linear Phase and there is latency w/ their use, so mastering is what they are most useful for. I've never used them since I have Voxengo's stuff for that purpose, as well as hardware. @
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redbarchetta
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 00:47:52
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So anything with LP in front of it is basically used for master?
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 00:55:00
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Yes, at least the two Cakewalk LP plugins. The LP-64 MultiBand is Cakewalk's multiband compressor intended for mixing/mastering just like the LP-64 EQ is their mixing/mastering equalizer.
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 03:35:47
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redbarchetta So anything with LP in front of it is basically used for master? Yes. The "LP" stands for "Linear Phase" which very basically stops the slight phasing issues that usually affect EQs and other processors. As a result they tend to be more transparent. Also because of the way they work they are more CPU intensive which is why they are not the first choice for tracking purposes.
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 04:56:30
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I quite like the sound of the LP64 But, many experienced Mastering Engineers don't use them at all (LP's), instead they seem to favour Minimum Phase EQ's I'm nowhere near experienced enough with the mastering side of things to even comment - just throwing this one on the table for dissection
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 12:52:49
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That IK free Eq is really more for tracks. They also have a LP Eq...guess you can use whatever you want though.
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 13:35:01
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the PRO channel EQ is very nice also : ) set 2 Pure
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 16:59:15
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Two really good ones I use are the Algorithmix Red (unfortunately only 32-bit), and the DMG Audio EQuality, which has an LP mode, and is 64-Bit. However, when the Algo Red PEQ is updated for 64-bit, it's so far the best one I've ever used as a plug-in. There's other really good ones. For the money, the LP-64 is great!
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 17:23:21
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 18:52:22
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Trying to do my best to resist buying more plugins. Good luck with that. An admirable goal, but no one is immune to GAS, unfortunately - it gets everyone eventually. The good news is that since the addition of the limiter SONAR has everything you need built-in. The bad news is that marketers are always trying to convince you that if your song sucks, it's not your fault - you just haven't bought the right plugins. Stay strong, rb.
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redbarchetta
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 18:55:23
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Funny, it's not the marketers that's my problem and weakpoint. It's all the guys in the video's I've been watching up on Groove 3. They talk about this plugin, that plugin... I must remain strong!
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 20:19:04
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There's a limiter built into Sonar?
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 21:05:44
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I would imagine they are talking about the Concrete Limiter, since http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2801028 refers to the extra PC modules but there are two plugins that provide limiters in SONAR, both Sonitus Compressors.
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 21:09:59
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I find it easier to resist software GAS. I've got enough and figure it is easier to learn what I have than get more. Famous last words. But hardware - only my bank account stops me. @
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 21:10:31
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Yes, the concrete limiter.
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 21:19:58
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You can do it all in the Pro channel. It would be nice if Sonar X3 had a built in wav editor. I haven't needed one so far but if you have a song that fades into another, you'll need something. I guess Audacity works. It's free, but I haven't used it.
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Re:Does Sonar have a Mastering EQ?
2013/03/12 21:41:42
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Fade in/out can be handled easily in SONAR with automation. I do use Sound Forge for some things but I could work without it. If I did not have Sound Forge and wanted a free editor to integrate into SONAR, I would probably use http://www.wavosaur.com/
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