anon125
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where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
when i drag a wav file to midi it plays. (win 7/64) when i open a midi file that i downloaded there is no sound. the help files are only for those who understand all this arcade jargon. so i need to open a sonar midi file to prove it is not my file that is the problem. and then i need to know how to get sound out so i can edit it and save it. i found the TTS-1 button - filled with more strange jargon of course the tiny square yellow/red indicators are flashing but not the big one on the left that says pan - whatever that may mean in cakewalkspeak thanks
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 12:33:26
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I believe that if you do the tutorials about using soft synths included in the help files, you'll understand it. The terminology is just the same if we give you the instructions which are directly from the manual. I wonder what you mean by "dragging a wav-file to MIDI"? MIDI has no sound, it's just playing instructions, you need a soft synth, like TTS-1 to play according to the MIDI. Basicly, you need a MIDI-track with output to soft synth, and an audio track with the soft synth as input and output to Master Bus. The Simple Instrument Tracks are another option, but you should get accuainted with this basic set up first. You'll need to learn the basic terminology (like "panning") anyway, if you continue with DAWs, so taking the time to study the manual is worthwhile - it's only 1800 pages :o) There are videos available as well, but I don't know where the good ones are, as I've never watched any.
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 12:37:54
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I'm not sure where to start, here.
A wav file is an audio file, like a recording. A MIDI file is just set of instructions to tell a synth what notes to play.
If you load a wav file it will play back in Sonar. If you load a MIDI file you need to connect it to a synth for it to play.
I recommend running through the tutorials that come with Sonar. I think Tutorial 4 covers MIDI and software instruments.
If I get time later I will post some instructions to insert a synth and use MIDI.
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 12:55:29
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 13:13:28
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 13:28:47
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 Here's a good (even if slightly dated!) Knowledge Base article from Cakewalk discussing MIDI vs Audio: http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013092 BTW - The tutorials in the Sonar Help file are actually pretty good, especially if you're just starting out using DAW software. Worth a look!!
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 14:56:38
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MIDI is simply a data sharing protocol, to allow multiple devices to communicate with each other for musical purposes.
It stands for Musical Instrument Digital Interface. Information in a midi file is not sound, but merely the information about how to play a particular sound - the note number (middle C has an assigned note number for example), a 'note on' event, and things like bank and preset data. When a synth processes the data in a midi file, that information tells it through all sort of these events, how to trigger sounds (or pedal on/off, or to use patch #122, etc).
It is the equivalent of how old player pianos used to work. They had metal scrolls that had punched holes all over the place that when processed by the piano by reading the holes, it would know it was supposed to play Mustang Sally, or whatever. Each hole meant a different note, and the length of the whole would tell the player piano how long to hold the note.
Midi works in a similar fashion, storing all of that stuff in a consistent format agreed to by a consortium of musical equipment manufacturers. A bunch of folks got together and came up with a standard way to store all of these different events, so that each instrument or effect pr whatever could share the data back and forth. This allowed things like true layering of sounds, where before a Rhodes couldn't be linked to a Clavinett - but with midi you could play a D chord on one keyboard and it could trigger a string patch on an ARP, while also sounding a brass patch on some other keyboard. Quite powerful. It is used to control things like lighting, and also things like effects.
Anyways, there is tons of info out there on this, and tutorials cover this as well.
I have to run some errands, but if nobody else has explained it any farther by the time I get back, I will try to bring you up to speed a bit on getting this to work in Sonar. Once you get it working once, you will get it for all time, hopefully.
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anon125
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 19:23:07
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yes i should have said dragging wav to Sonar X!
i have yet to find the tutorials
this computer does not connect to the internet
thanks all
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 20:03:54
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Well if you do not know what the word "Pan" means,, you have a long long road ahead of you. You seem a little upset with the terminology of audio and MIDI recording. Pan is much easier to place on a mixer than "this here knob makes the sound move right or left in the stereo field"
I'm afraid that using DAW software is not like playing a video game. It takes effort on the users behalf to learn how it all works. As everyone has mentioned because they can all tell you haven't done it yet, Read the endless information and watch the videos... over and over. It will take time.
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anon125
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 20:03:58
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anon125
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 20:07:55
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anon125
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 20:11:05
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Well if you do not know what the word "Pan" means,, you have a long long road ahead of you. You seem a little upset with the terminology of audio and MIDI recording. Pan is much easier to place on a mixer than "this here knob makes the sound move right or left in the stereo field" I'm afraid that using DAW software is not like playing a video game. It takes effort on the users behalf to learn how it all works. As everyone has mentioned because they can all tell you haven't done it yet, Read the endless information and watch the videos... over and over. It will take time. spending endless boring puzzling days struggling with software is not my idea of a nice time. i just have ONE problem - import a MIDI file and change it and export it. how do i do that on a win7/64 laptop with sonar studio XI the tutorials do not appear to cover that thanks
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 20:45:05
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What are you trying to achieve in the long run? If you want to play back a MIDI file, then perhaps Sonar is the wrong program for you. If you want to enter the world of recording/composing/producing music with a computer, you have a steep learning curve ahead. Perhaps watch some of the videos on Cake site if you can't sit through the twenty second add on Scott's site. Good luck.
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 20:55:52
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anon125
yes i should have said dragging wav to Sonar X!
i have yet to find the tutorials
this computer does not connect to the internet
thanks all
This is twilight zone stuff here. Can someone explain this to me? Brian
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/13 23:45:56
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IMO easiest way.
Start Sonar > Go to " insert"> choose "soft synth" select "CW TTS-1".
Select the midi track by clicking on the blank midi track, then go to "File" import midi select your midi.. Everything should be set in TTS automatically except BPM. You can adjust that in the project.
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/14 07:32:56
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/14 10:06:50
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ohgrant
IMO easiest way.
Start Sonar > Go to " insert"> choose "soft synth" select "CW TTS-1".
Select the midi track by clicking on the blank midi track, then go to "File" import midi select your midi.. Everything should be set in TTS automatically except BPM. You can adjust that in the project.
+1 here - this is an easy way to get the imported midi to play. To the original poster: You indicated that you want to change some of the midi content. To do that with Sonar, you can read the manual, like we all did. People here in the forum bend over backwards to assist folks with issues - but there is an expectancy in that person also putting effort into resolution of a given issue. You clearly don't seem interested in putting any effort into this, expecting people to do your work for you, and that is not likely to happen. Bob Bone
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Re:where do i find the midi files to play with sonar X1?
2013/03/14 15:25:10
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