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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 14:08:56
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I remember listening to this song recently and thinking how cool it was... but I don't remember this much reverb on the Vox... It may be just me, but I think there's way too much verb on this awesome vocal track... for my taste that is... also, the lead guitar could come up just a hair... Everything else sounds really fine to me, and sits just right in the mix... Great work Charlie...  Did you play the guitars..?
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 14:33:06
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Hey Charlie, this is a monster of a track, love it! Excellent guitars and vocals, drums & bass are right in the pocket too.
I actually like the verb on the vocs, gives the song a great atmosphere. Superb hook on the chorus, really memorable. I do like a good middle 8/bridge leading into a solo, and you hit that nail right on the head!
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 15:19:43
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I thought the mix was great? Wonderful performances.
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 16:01:30
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Great concepts in this mix. Nice movement on the guitars.
I have to agree with notnat on the reverb thing... it seems to be drowning the lead vocal a bit.
Lead guitar could come up a bit. Cool sound overall though
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 16:11:55
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Awesome tune and performances, at first I thought the verb was a little heavy but grew on me. Top notch sounding production to my ears.
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 17:18:47
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thank you guys, very much, its not easy keeping up with you guys around here :)
but you have given me so much help even by listening to your songs and the feedback here.
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 17:22:42
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Love the song. Is it about Ketamine? Here's what I am hearing: - the bass seems to be late for quite a few passages in the song... this could get tightened
- it is over-compressed overall..the guitars should be, but there is a lack of sonic dynamics that actually fatigued me towards the end of the song. @3:12 you have a cool break there for a split second but the compressor is just banging it too hard for it to have the deserved impact
- I might think of adding a chiming, crunchy guitar figure thru the chorus at some point
- the lead is awesome but you should cut a nice fat q around 1.5k from the rhythm guitars at that spot to let it come through some more
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 19:13:02
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Hey Charlie . . .
This tune rocks. Excellent performance on the guitars and especially your vocals. The mix sounds good on my end and I like the verb. If I had to nit pick the mix I would pick on your snare. I think it could use a smidge more punch/high end and I would bring it forward some because I lose it at times.. All in all a really solid piece of music. KUDOS!
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 19:22:14
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Charlie, There is a lot of good in the song and playing. The mix needs work. I agree with James on the compression - on the drums it seems too much. Overall, the whole frequency range seems limited like not enough lows and not enough highs. There lots in the middle though. I would try A/B ing this with other songs you like to see what I mean about the overall frequencies. Less drum compression and more clarity is what I am trying to say. Rimshot
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 19:51:28
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Well, by the time I got to this, it looks like all the good mix points have been made. I'll just say that I really liked the tune and the vocals. The verb was a bit heavy on the vox, but sometimes that's an effect you may want... not sure here?
Agree with james and Jimmy on the compression issues and also on giving the lead guitar a little room to breath when it comes in.
Another fine job, Charlie!
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 23:50:17
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Great song. Rally like it. But, yep, fatiguing. This is, as pointed out, due to mids... in this case lower mids. I also agree with it being cut a bit oddly on the bottom. The highs are there, but... it is the extreme highs... there seems to be a lack of sonic information between the very crystal highs and the low and mid highs. Sincerely Chuck, I would toss it clean and start fresh. Start with the bass, then the kick. I think this mix might frustrate the hell out you otherwise.
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/14 23:54:16
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Oh, and while I like verb saturated vox, this one does not work and sounds like you are in a metal closet. Convolution reverb is IMO the way to go, but you will need to audition literally hundreds of impulse forms to find what actually works. It is sometimes an arduous process. Leave that for last.
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/15 00:35:47
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Great song, and I like the overall balance of frequencies (didn't find it fatiguing or anything like that), but when I listened to it again, this time on headphones, I'm sensing something not quite right with the stereo image...I'm somewhat of a n00b at audio so I don't really know how to describe what's going on in technical terms, but it seems like something is going on in the high frequencies on the left side, as if they're pumping in and out a little, making the stereo image feel somewhat unbalanced. The closest comparison I can think of is in the first Ryko release of Zappa's "You Are What You Is" CD, which had problems with the mastering. On Wikipedia it says the problem was caused by "an overuse of digital techniques like compression and reverb." It's not as pronounced as on the Zappa CD (which seriously caused my eyes to water when I listened to it on cans). Again I really have no idea what I'm talking about, and maybe someone more knowledgeable than me could chime in hear by giving it a listen on cans, because perhaps I'm just too tired or something  but my left ear did feel a little left out, is about as technical as I can put it.... Otherwise a great song, really enjoyed this.
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/15 09:11:34
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gentlemen, thank you so much, looks like im back to work on this one, mix is too compressed and ive got dead ear from overplaying it..lol.
I thank each and every one of you for the listens and when I get more time I will be back to address you individualy as well as a big thanks for your work on helping me with this one,
ive got 25 of the best musician/producers helping me out here and you all have something special about you, how can I go wrong ? :)
james, yes it is.
thank you guys for your input, back to serious work here on what I think is a great song but over mastered.
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/19 13:52:50
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Charlie, I like this song and some to the engineering that went into this. I like the verb on the vox, but I would like to hear it a db or two louder. Or, leave the verb off and crank the vocal up several db's. Anyway, take a break and come back to it refreshed. This has great potential.
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/21 20:46:48
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I could go either way on the verb. It's a really good song and the lyrics are very good. I can't speak to the mix because something is bothering me and I can't put my finger on it. It could be the verb making it sound a bit back from the front. I don't know, mixing and critiquing mixes is not my forte. It is overall really good Charlie.
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Re:Charlie Roy-Lady K
2013/03/22 03:58:26
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Hey, Charlie, Wow, this is truly a monster rocker with great lyrics, dynamite vocals and killer guitar work! I love the thick tone on the rhythm guitars, excellent playing on the tasty solo, and the vocals are really outstanding. The mix sounds nice and punchy, and really well textured, too. Excellent work, Charlie, and now I get to listen to "Jack It Up" again as a bonus! Great stuff, buddy, keep 'em coming! Bob
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