Using Sonar 8 Studio to PLAY a MIDI file, and RECORD the audio output?

It's been a while, but after a few years, I finally got my system up-and-running again. So...here's my question. I am running Sonar 8 Studio on my main computer. Connections: Computer USB port --> Triton Extreme 88 via USB (for MIDI). Audio outs on my Triton --> mixing board (Behringer Xenyx 2442FX), RCA out --> Behringer U-Control UCA200 USB interface ---> to computer. Here's what I need to do -- play a midi in Sonar (via Triton), and record it into a file. Can I do this in Sonar, or do I need to use a different software program to record it, and then bring it into Sonar after it's recorded? Any/All help would be greatly appreciated! THANKS! :)

  Kalle - I'm trying to simultaneously PLAY a MIDI file and RECORD the output from my Triton (via a stereo audio track). Is this possible? Thanks for the input.

Sean, it seems that something that is obvious to us is tripping you up. So we are not clear on where the problem lies.
I'm going to go super basic here, and may be telling you what you already know.
Verify that you can record sound from the Triton.
Do you see activity on the Xenyx meters?
Do you have the proper input selected for your Audio track and is it armed for record?
Can you record to an audio track when you play the keys on the Triton?
In Options>MIDI Devices, is the Triton selected as an output device?
Is the output of the MIDI track set to the Triton?
Is the MIDI track sending on the right channel?
Is the Triton receiving on the right channel?
Is there a setting on the Triton to receive from an external MIDI source? You may need to check your manual on this one.
If you have established a complete signal path, then yes, what you want to do is possible.
If not, let us know where you are stuck.


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Thanks for the advice, you guys. Also, just FYI -- I am a MASTER! A MASTER at either giving TOO MUCH information, or simply NOT ENOUGH! LOL! ;) Here's the SIMPLE version: I want to take a MIDI file that I have created in Cakewalk/Sonar (about 8 channels of MIDI data) and make an AUDIO file out of it (WAV, MP3, etc.). The AUDIO file will then be pulled into a NEW AUDIO MIX (probably just 4 channels), where I can add BASS, GUITAR, and VOCALS to it. My MIDI data (from Sonar to Triton Keyboard) is sent via a USB cable from the computer to the Triton. This works fine. No problem. My Triton goes through the Xenyx Mixer and out to the P.O.S. UCA200 USB I/O device. It is listed and works (okay) with the rest of the instruments if I'm just playing keyboard, bass, vocals, etc. through the board on their own. (I used to have an M-Audio DiO 2448 card, but it will not work with the computer that I have due to height restrictions.) Thanks for the continued help. Yes, I am obviously a problem child, so please feel free to take your time as a tax write-off at the end of 2013! ;) Peace. RobertB - thanks for the local nod! Good to meet you (and everyone else as well!) :)

So when I "export" it -- it will somehow have the sounds of the Triton included? I only ask, because I DO NOT want any other "synth" sounds. I have modeled these just the way I like them. Thanks again! You've been a SUPER help for me!

"As we have been saying, you would need to record the output to a stereo audio track first." "So run your MIDI to the Triton and record the Tritons audio output and your good to go." Exactly. So...my question is this...what is the best way to record my midi track into an audio file? Can this be done within Sonar? (e.g. PLAY the MIDI file while RECORDING the output at the same time?) Or...should I use Sonar to play the MIDI file, and use another program to capture the AUDIO? <-- the latter seems the most likely at this point, but just want to bounce this off of you. Thanks again!

 So my ultimate question is -- how do I set up Sonar to accomplish this? Do I need to open TWO separate projects (e.g. one for the MIDI file, and one for the Audio?) I found and loaded my old copy of Sound Forge 9.0, and can do this, but would rather just do it ALL within SONAR if possible. Thanks again. Yep...I'm kind of a problem child. ;) ~S

Success! :) Found a small routing problem via MIXER and output in Sonar. Happy camper!! Thanks for the great help! :)