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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/16 17:39:51
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CJaysMusic I swear by JBL's. There great fro recording and mixing. I use the LSR 4326's with a sub for mixing and i wouldn't change it for anything. CJ even if i send you pair of Sm9 or s3xh or atc 25 ? to the op : wait , by yourself a beyerdynalics dt 990 pro until you have money for : Good monitors and room treatment ... the best bang for the buck are the event 20/30 actually
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/16 19:13:44
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Kev999 DPTrainor I imagine this is subjective... You need to spend as much time as possible listening before buying and eventually choose something that you believe you can live with. Sometimes a particular speaker (Tannoy) sounds impressive initially but becomes tiresome after a while. Sometimes you check out a particular model that lots of people have recommended (Yamaha) and find that it sounds awful to you, even with some of your favourite music playing through it. Personal preference plays a large part. Best advice ever. Speakers have to be listened too before one can decide. Its best to bring your own music to audition with. Listen to as many speakers as you can. If you find a set you like see if you can take them home and listen to them in the room you will be using. The reason there so many brands and types is they all sound different even with similar specs.
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/18 01:38:21
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I have decided to work on the room first. Acoustic treatment. Try to reduce any problems with room. Then select top 3 choices of small 4/5" studio monitors in my price range. Bring them into this room. Evaluate them for a good long time and (somehow) return the other 2. I think it would be the best/most accurate way. Or alternatively, just pick 1 and screw it - then accept using ears for compensation and accept longer mixing hours. Either way, not ideal. But, what is and maybe I will be lucky! :) Thanks everyone for guidance and advise. Each suggestion had value to me. Peace Out.
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/18 07:35:27
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Hang around this acoustics forum a bit and you'll learn a lot about how to set up you 'room'.
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/18 07:49:28
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And I know that Sweetwater has a very good return policy. Not sure if the other stores match it but SW gives you 30 days hassle free and even pays shipping. Mike
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/18 10:07:58
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Don't leave out headphones. You might find you're better off with a great pair of cans in a smaller space. I love my Mackie HR824 originals a LOT, but a pair of AT-M40 headphones work better for me unless I'm demo-ing a mix to a client.
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/18 13:09:47
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Lots of good info here. The only thing I would add is monitor placement after you treat your room. I wouldn't place them on a book shelf. Away from the wall and on a stands, even concrete blocks on the cheap, will yield better results. IK Multimedia ARC room correction is also very helpful even in a treated room. I love my Dynaudio BM5A's on concrete blocks, 3 feet off the back wall, towed in about 30 degrees towards the sweet spot in my somewhat treated room with ARC running on the mix buss. That and a pair of Beyerdynamic DT770 pro's through a Focusrite VRM box keep me honest. Rocky
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/18 16:25:27
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After a couple years, still happy with my KRK VXT4's. Small but amaizing. Should come in right at $500.
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/18 18:58:01
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DP Trainor, I upgraded to Focal CMS 65 several months ago. I haven't heard the CMS 40's, but, the build quality of the Focals is top-notch. My CMS 65's sound amazingly detailed, with decent low-end. I have several pairs of old monitors, including a pair of pristine M- Audio Bx5a's. They were included with a bulk purchase I made a few years ago. They are inexpensive monitors, but sound OK. They are cosmetically perfect, and work perfectly. They are packed away in their original carton with manual and power cords. If you want them, they are yours. Just pay the shipping. PM me if interested.
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/18 19:51:50
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One more vote for the Equator D5's here, a lot of detail. Need's a bit a sub, if you want. Amazing things for what they cost.
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/19 19:04:22
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JSGlen DP Trainor, I upgraded to Focal CMS 65 several months ago. I haven't heard the CMS 40's, but, the build quality of the Focals is top-notch. My CMS 65's sound amazingly detailed, with decent low-end. I have several pairs of old monitors, including a pair of pristine M- Audio Bx5a's. They were included with a bulk purchase I made a few years ago. They are inexpensive monitors, but sound OK. They are cosmetically perfect, and work perfectly. They are packed away in their original carton with manual and power cords. If you want them, they are yours. Just pay the shipping. PM me if interested. Wow, thats so so very nice of you! How can I pass up. Thanks! I PM you. Thanks again!!!
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/19 19:11:02
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Paul P Hang around this acoustics forum a bit and you'll learn a lot about how to set up you 'room'. Thanks Paul, I check out this forum. Looks good for what I need to do with this room. Dan
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/19 19:16:33
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Thats AWESOME of you to do JSG!!!
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/19 19:19:19
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:) So great! I pay forward!
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/19 19:37:07
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I'm just selfishly trying to collect a bit of good Karma.
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/19 19:41:36
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DP Trainor, Dan I just tried to respond to your PM, and was notified that the delivery was unsuccessful. Please send me another, and if you could include your email address. Thanks, Jay
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/19 20:13:52
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Sent. Let me know if you get PM. Thanks Again!
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/19 20:18:50
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Got it Dan, and it looks like you received my last PM. Off to the Post Office in the morning!
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/19 20:24:58
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Jay. You're awesome!! Those were my first powered monitors. They'll get you up and running for sure. The are somewhat flattering and lean in the bass. I would use the money saved on room treatment and/or ARC. Dan, don't forget to pay it forward. Rocky
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/19 20:30:03
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Yeah, I use money saved for room treatment now! So good. And yes, I shall pay forward. People here are really nice! Dan
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/19 23:10:22
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I would recommend heading down to Guitar Center or another shop in your area and check the new Adam F series. I just got done buying new ones and auditioned Adams, KRKs and some others. I ended up going with the Adam A7X, but almost down-graded to the F series because they were so good for the price. The F5's are $500/pr. They have good bass for their size and their high end clarity is really, really good, without being too bright. If you need more bass, you could always add a sub-woofer later. http://www.musiciansfrien...powered-studio-monitor http://www.adam-audio.com...roducts/f5/description The KRK Rokits are also good speakers for the price. So get to a store and listen and see what works for you. I would recommend taking some music with you on a stick, an iPod or something so you can compare with music you know well and is representative of what you will be listening to. Happy hunting.
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/20 06:54:40
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I've just bough Adam ARTist5, which should be about the same as ADAM A5X but with glossy finish, build in DAC (if you want to...). Musicians Friend had them for 349$/each for a stupid deal of the day :) i have nothing to compare them to, since they are also my first monitors (just used my DT-770 headphones) But after about one week (!!) of burning in with Fourplay and other fine, smooth music it has really started to open up and sound really nice and tight. PS: the ARTist 5 has rear bassreflex ports, so you'll have to have this in mind. For me it is not a problem - but it demands a bit more from you for the placement.
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/20 11:02:21
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Small speakers won't let you hear what is going down in the bass dept. In your situation I'd have a pair of big speakers tied in to your system so I could check my music out there. Those don't have to be expensive, just bigger woofers. As far as what to put in your studio room, my solution would be the yama's mps5s. Those should give you a critical idea of the mix - sans bass. I've used them in big studios as the near fields. The Equitors have an outstanding reputation for new speakers. If you could double your budget you could get the Pelonis near fields and add their sub later when you have a bigger room. That is pretty much no compromise monitoring. @
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/20 11:30:37
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At most decent music stores there will be a number of pairs set up with a switching matrix to allow you to compare them side by side. Please take the time to do this. Also carry a CD that reflects the style of music you will be doing and preferably a CD that you know well from an acoustic standpoint. While most studio reference monitors claim to have a "flat frequency response", as you audition the pairs you will quickly discover that they all sound different. My advice is to pick a pair that are in your budget range, and that sound good to your ears and reproduce the music on your CD the best, again, according to your ears. Most store allow a 30 or 45 day no fault return policy. With speakers this is something to be aware of and use if needed. Because the speakers may sound totally different in the home than they did in the store. Be sure they sound like you want them or expect them to sound in the studio room. Use the reference CD you took to the store. Once you are satisfied with them at home......... Then, learn that speaker system.
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Re:Active Studio Monitor Speakers
2013/03/20 18:08:34
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I see somebody hooked you up with a pair of monitors. That's great. I'm new at all this - I've got a pair of Mackie MR5's. My old drummer, who was a mix engineer had some MR8's, but my budget and the size of my room made the 5's more acceptable to me. (I read alot of reviews of these monitors, too, before I bought.) I saw a comment about checking out a bunh of monitors to see how they sound in your room, that you might need a sub. I was thinking about this as I set up my mix room and what I decided to do was to play some CD's that I was completely familiar with, and whose production I admired, through my Mackies to get a feel for how they sound with a professional mix, just to give me a reference and get my ear sort of tuned to the monitors and the room.
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