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X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
This never used to be the case, but now, for new plugs to be available, I have to exit and restart SONAR after I've run a VST scan. Is this the intended behavior? That would seem odd given that it never used to be this way. Anyone else experiencing this? Is there a setting that controls it? Is it a bug?
Note: I don't have SONAR set to scan on startup as I don't install new plugs that frequently and I don't like the extra time it takes.
Thanks.
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John
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 11:57:27
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No that is not normal. Also having scan on startup will not impose any extra time. If you didn't add a VST it simply wont scan. If you did it will only scan that new VST. Its very quick.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 11:57:54
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I always restart Sonar...not a big deal to do so for me.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 12:08:15
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In the preferences menu there is a button on the vst page that lets you scan the vsts right away without having to start up again.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 12:54:46
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Oh yeah...you are right Cowboy..I did forget that...
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 13:09:19
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go to your plug in manager and hit re-scan plug ins or re-scan failed plug ins.
if the plug in manager isn't set to scanning on start up, its not going to see your new entrys (newly installed vsts)
you can get there by prefernces/vst or by going to insert/audio plug ins/plug in manager.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 13:13:37
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cowboydan
In the preferences menu there is a button on the vst page that lets you scan the vsts right away without having to start up again.
a button ? that narrows it down. there are a few buttons in there.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 14:32:49
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One thing I am not clear about is why anyone is restarting after a scan? You do this in other hosts and you will do nothing but restart. Because most hosts do a full scan on start.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 17:57:00
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I just like to restart anything after installing something new...computers, cell phones, etc... I few it like adding hardware or new software...I always shut it down and reboot...just a habit I have...I guess I am just anal that way...ummm...and that way ONLY...maybe OCD would be a better term??
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 18:07:33
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VSTs are plugins. They are not programs or drivers. VSTs are meant to be scanned and thus recognized. You don't need to reboot or restart Sonar. If you do this with Cubase for example which will always scan on startup you would never get any further than the scan.
I repeat there is no advantage what so ever in scanning and restarting Sonar.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 20:04:20
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Well...I guess I don't rightfully have a good answer as to why. I guess that is why I spend time on here! I have learned something new! ....and maybe I just like to watch Sonar open up and display all her beauty to me...
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 20:19:35
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Frostysnake
Well...I guess I don't rightfully have a good answer as to why. I guess that is why I spend time on here! I have learned something new! ....and maybe I just like to watch Sonar open up and display all her beauty to me...
Now that I can understand!
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/19 21:21:53
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Hi, John. The reason I'm restarting Sonar after the scan is that, although I can see the plugin in the plugin manager, it is not available to load into the FX bin. Restarting makes it available. I don't know why this is. It didn't used to be the case for me.
cowboydan, what is the specific setting you are referring to?
Thanks,
Ben
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/20 01:47:54
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chuckebaby
cowboydan
In the preferences menu there is a button on the vst page that lets you scan the vsts right away without having to start up again.
a button ?
that narrows it down.
there are a few buttons in there.
If you have a problem with what I put on the forum or any other problem pertaining to me, then bring it on.
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benjaminfrog
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/21 12:43:16
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Anyone else know if there is a specific setting that controls this? Thanks.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/21 12:59:58
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benjaminfrog
Anyone else know if there is a specific setting that controls this? Thanks.
Controls what?
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benjaminfrog
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/21 18:48:10
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Controls whether a plugin is available right after the scan is run (same session) or whether exiting Sonar and relaunching it is required. Since at least X2a I've had to relaunch, which never used to be the case.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/21 20:06:35
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First I run X2a and I do not have to restart Sonar in order to have a VST scan work. Also this is not the way it is meant to work. One reason Cubase, for example, scan on every startup.
Perhaps you are not running X2 as an administrator.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/21 20:32:55
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Perhaps it's related to a custom plugin layout?
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/21 22:00:32
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cowboydan
chuckebaby
cowboydan
In the preferences menu there is a button on the vst page that lets you scan the vsts right away without having to start up again.
a button ?
that narrows it down.
there are a few buttons in there.
If you have a problem with what I put on the forum or any other problem pertaining to me, then bring it on.
what am I supposed to bring on ? what are you going to hit me or something ? your showing the same behavior you always do and it seems to be a trend. wasn't there a thread a couples weeks ago where you were the one who respond to me with words like , "loser" and "Idiot". see Dan, maybe in real life you go around verbally abusing people but I don't. I say thing like "well that narrows it down" big difference and rather than say things like "Bring it on" like you've been watching to much WWF or something, I say things like "I'm going to pass on that." (the bring it on)
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/21 22:11:37
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Charlie I wouldn't worry about it I can't figure out what needs to be "brought on" anyway.  He could be a baggage handler though and simply wants you to bring a bag on board. Maybe he wants you to check it.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/22 01:56:22
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chuckebaby
cowboydan
chuckebaby
cowboydan
In the preferences menu there is a button on the vst page that lets you scan the vsts right away without having to start up again.
a button ?
that narrows it down.
there are a few buttons in there.
If you have a problem with what I put on the forum or any other problem pertaining to me, then bring it on.
what am I supposed to bring on ?
what are you going to hit me or something ?
your showing the same behavior you always do and it seems to be a trend.
wasn't there a thread a couples weeks ago where you were the one who respond to me with words like , "loser" and "Idiot".
see Dan, maybe in real life you go around verbally abusing people but I don't.
I say thing like "well that narrows it down" big difference
and rather than say things like "Bring it on" like you've been watching to much WWF or something,
I say things like "I'm going to pass on that." (the bring it on)
In the short time I have seen you on the forum ,I have noticed your behavior as being a self appointed forum moderator among other things. You are very good at twisting words that others put on the forum as if you are some kind of professor or something. I typed "button "on the forum in order to help someone and here you come around and in your "diplomatic way" start cutting me down with your remarks like "well that narrows it down"and like you've been watching to much WWF or something. I am very tired of your underwater remarks . I am not going to start getting personal. It is a waste of time with people like you. I hope you have a great time on the forum. Most of all I hope you stop and think before you start making your remarks on the forum. Anyway I dont want anything more to do with you. Danny
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/22 07:50:10
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stevec
Perhaps it's related to a custom plugin layout?
Hi, Steve. The problem does have to do with layouts, but not just custom ones. After I run a scan, I can see the new VST in the plugin manager and I add it to my custom layout. I then close the plugin manager, right click in the FX bin and, not only is it absent from my custom layout, it's also absent from the "default all plugins" layout. Again, this didn't used to be the case. I don't know if I changed a setting inadvertently or if this is a bug. Given that other folks don't seem to be having this problem, I'm inclined to think it's a setting, I just don't know which one. Cowboydan, you mentioned that you thought there was a setting in the plugin manager that affected this behavior. If you (or anyone) know what that is, please respond. Thanks.
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Re:X2a - Scanning for new plugins requires exiting/restarting SONAR
2013/03/22 08:28:38
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This was an interesting thread to say the least...lol
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