Random midi notes get selected

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2013/04/05 09:44:41 (permalink)

Random midi notes get selected

I'm relatively new to midi so this may be a basic task. I wrote a part for violins and I want to change to violas, so I am group selecting, lassoing, the notes above the violas range with the intent of dragging them down to the violas range. Problem is, random notes outside of the lasso are selected. I've searched for something to affect the behavior and can't find it so I figured it was time to ask. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    chuckebaby
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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 10:01:15 (permalink)
    I wish I had a good answer but I really don't.
    all I can say is to just make sure the notes you are selecting are darker in color and to not touch any notes at all with the lasso box.
    (im sure you probably already knew this  :)
    best luck with this man

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 10:17:38 (permalink)
    Thanks Charlie. It's like they're somehow linked to each other because the same notes outside the lasso always get selected. The notes within the lasso get selected as usual.

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 10:22:38 (permalink)
    I would avoid moving the notes. Just change the key by an octave up or down.

    This is a simple thing to do in the track inspector using the key widget. 

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 10:35:35 (permalink)
    Thanks John, that would solve the whole lasso problem but I don't want to change all of the notes just the ones out of the viola's range. And there are many, otherwise I'd just start moving them individually. Plus I want to understand what I did to cause it in case it happens again.

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 11:21:46 (permalink)
    You mean it only happens occasionally? Did you try the same thing in another project using a different VSTi?

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 12:04:27 (permalink)
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    Thanks Charlie. It's like they're somehow linked to each other because the same notes outside the lasso always get selected. The notes within the lasso get selected as usual.

    if the track is split in to clips make sure the clip isn't selected in the track view or every note in that clip will move, again this might be something you already knew about.
    im just thinking here :)

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 14:09:09 (permalink)
    It seems to only be on this midi track with EWQLSO. Charlie I just checked that and it isn't selected in track view. In the meantime I've decided to scuttle the viola idea and just keep the violins. Thanks all for taking the time to help.

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 15:38:35 (permalink)
    Are they on different Midi channels?

    If so you can select them via Edit > Select > By Filter



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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 15:46:25 (permalink)
    Sadly I think this is a bug. I've had it happen and I either just lasso the notes again and hope for the best or if that doesn't work I hold Control and click on the notes that should not have been selected (this deselects them while leaving the original selections active). It doesn't happen often but when it does it's definitely a pain. There are other selection issues in X2 like this involving clips. It's the only major bug I've encountered and I hope it gets fixed. Cheers.
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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 15:57:54 (permalink)
    I think I know the problem and I think I have a solution. (That would be a first for me on these boards!)

    It may be a bug, but when you lasso the top of a velocity line it selects the note. So if the velocity lines are up in the area of the notes that you are trying to select the other notes will be selected also. Lower velocity note won't be selected.

    There's an easy solution for you: If you click on a note on the piano scale to the left it selects all of those notes. If you hold the shift key and click on all of the notes that you want to select- just gliss along the notes you want- and you will select all of those notes.

    Hope this helps.

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 16:02:53 (permalink)
    It may be a bug, but when you lasso the top of a velocity line it selects the note. So if the velocity lines are up in the area of the notes that you are trying to select the other notes will be selected also. Lower velocity note won't be selected.

    hmm... I didn't know that but it has still happened to me after I figured out how to hide the the controller/velocity lines. Good to know though. 

    There is definitely a selection bug but it only seems to affect a small amount of users. I have no idea what could possibly be causing it for us unlucky few. I have a pretty standard system/set up and is most definitely intermittent.
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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 16:06:37 (permalink)
    X1c

    I just noticed this. Are you still on X1c? If so you should get the d patch. However I never noticed this problem until I upgraded to X2. Cheers.
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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 16:58:19 (permalink)
    I never thought about it too much before, but I can see some usefulness for that "feature". If you're editing a midi performance and decide that the high velocity notes are a little too aggressive, you can select all of the notes above a certain velocity and bring them all down together.  
    You can pan the piano roll so that all of the notes are out of the frame and only the velocity lines are showing. Then lasso the tops of the offending velocities. Pan back down to see the notes and, using one of the selected notes, pull the velocities down to where you want them. 


    Could be useful, no?


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    Say, Beep, how do you hide the velocity lines?

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 17:08:07 (permalink)
    Say, Beep, how do you hide the velocity lines?

    It's been a while so I forget the exact way I did it but I think you have to select Show Controller Pane from one of the PRV menus which then isolates them in that pane (getting them off the PRV grid) then just drag the divider down until all you see is the PRV grid. There is also an option to hide the controllers in the PRV menus but IIRC I couldn't get that to work properly. Sorry if that's vague but I've been away from the DAW for a while. Cheers. 
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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 18:24:37 (permalink)
    Ah, yes, that's how it's done. That could be handy. Thanks.

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 21:18:37 (permalink)
    I've just checked back in and I do appreciate the help. Jonesey they're all on the same midi channel. Doug and Beepster I'll give that a try tomorrow. Sounds like it could be the problem...Like your quote Doug. He had another great line in that song "take the Greyhound, it's a dog of a way to get around". Big Chapin fan!

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/05 21:40:22 (permalink)
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    So if the velocity lines are up in the area of the notes that you are trying to select the other notes will be selected also.  

    Ah, why didn't I think of that? I remember I hated the behavior and decided to hide the velocity lines (by Shift+C) when working on the notes only.


    Beepster

    hmm... I didn't know that but it has still happened to me after I figured out how to hide the the controller/velocity lines. 

    Are you sure you weren't drinking or sleeping at that time, Beep? 

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    Re:Random midi notes get selected 2013/04/06 08:32:19 (permalink)
    junedrive


    Like your quote Doug. He had another great line in that song "take the Greyhound, it's a dog of a way to get around". Big Chapin fan!



    Yeah, Harry wrote a lot of great songs. I was a big fan, too.

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