Johnny4Lonnie
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Guitar Rig 5
Looking for any tips on improving recording quality. I run my guitar into a Yamaha Audiogram 3 interface with USB connected to computer, then set up an audio track and load GR 5 in as a plug in effect, after turning on input echo. I seem to get a lot of line noise, latency, and strange stuff happening. Is there a better way work flow? Other settings? The performance is not as good as if I record the guita on an external device and upload the track as a WAv and then put GR5 on as an effect. I have the audio settings using WDM/KS driver, 44.1 sampling rate, 2 buffers and buffer setting as fast as possible I srun Sonar PE 8.2, Windows 7, my computer has 12gb ram and Intel 2.8 GHz processor
post edited by Johnny4Lonnie - 2013/04/03 12:28:19
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Sidroe
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Re:Guitar Rig 5
2013/04/03 13:12:54
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I have never had any luck with WDM/KS drivers! I obtain as low as 64 samples or 2 ms latency with ASIO. Some computers work with different driver configs. I would try ASIO to be sure.
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chuckebaby
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Re:Guitar Rig 5
2013/04/03 13:27:36
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use the gate and you can double the sample rate in GR5.
those are basically your options, I agree with sid, wdm drivers are for the birds.
best wishes.
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Re:Guitar Rig 5
2013/04/03 13:40:11
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Johnny4Lonnie
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Re:Guitar Rig 5
2013/04/03 14:14:09
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Thanks guys, what is the best ASIO driver?
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Re:Guitar Rig 5
2013/04/03 22:08:13
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Johnny4Lonnie - once you get it set right you should have a signal that sounds like you're playing through an amp with a sense of no latency, which is what it sounds like at 2ms.
post edited by lawajava - 2013/04/03 22:10:09
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Re:Guitar Rig 5
2013/04/03 23:46:21
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Re:Guitar Rig 5
2013/04/03 23:53:13
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Johnny4Lonnie
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Re:Guitar Rig 5
2013/04/04 19:23:47
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Guys, thanks for the tips. I installed the drivers and am running ASIO4All. It's a little better but in order to get a clean sound I have to have the Buffer size set to 512 samples, which results in 12msec latency in and out. Is there any thing else I can try to improve on that? The other settings I have:
Latency compensation In and Out - 16 samples
I do not have the boxes checked for Hardware buffer, always resample 44-48kHz, and Force WDM driver to 16 bit
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Re:Guitar Rig 5
2013/04/04 19:44:42
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I thought your interface had asio drivers?
I looked on the Yamaha website?
is this not the case?
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Johnny4Lonnie
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Re:Guitar Rig 5
2013/04/05 10:43:39
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Yes the audiogram does have ASIO drivers. I set the drivers to the Audiogram. It improved the latency a little bit more, but it only has 3 latency setting; high, normal, and low. When set on low I am getting 10.6ms in anc 14ms out latenecy. But it does sound better than WDM or ASIO4all
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Re:Guitar Rig 5
2013/04/06 17:54:31
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If you downloaded and installed the Yamaha ASIO drivers then uninstall asio4all, they are interfering and are not the Yamaha drivers, they are a 3rd party driver used when nothing else works. You must have installed them earlier.
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