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2013/04/09 17:21:25 (permalink)

It's hot up here...

My studio and office are in the upper room of my house. 2nd floor. 

Last night I came up here to work on a guitar part for another caker's song and turned on the air conditioner.  About 10 minutes later it was still hot, so I just kept working. An hour went by..... still hot. Finished and got up to check the thermostat. Hummmm strange.... it is on cool.... the set point is below the temp in the room, AC should be working.

Shut it off time for bed...worry about it in the morning. 

That was last night.... today, another 80 degree + day... it's warm. Turn on the AC.... go down stairs and check the compressor outside. We had some problems with it a few weeks back when it wasn't running the compressor to heat the rooms.  Had to run it on heat strips for a few nights. We had it serviced and it worked fine..... until....... 

Look out the window in the kitchen....OK... the fan isn't running. Go outside and check the circuit breaker. It's tripped.... ok so I reset it. Fan fires up compressor starts up..... circuit breaker kicks off 4 seconds later. Reset and try again.... same thing. Dang..... double dang..... 

Not looking good. Looks like the compressor may actually be locked up for real. This means a complete new HVAC package for the 2nd story rooms. Anyway, waiting on the repair guy who installed and services it to show up to check it out maybe tomorrow. 

Got to have AC up here in the summer... when my daughters come home from school for the summer and on weekends.... oh yeah, got to have AC running. Besides, it just makes the studio so much nicer to work in. 



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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/09 17:40:36 (permalink)
    Well, there goes the new toy budget.  You'll just have to record w/ the same ole guitars.  cheaper than sweating a warp in them, anyway

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/09 18:21:18 (permalink)
    Ouch. That's bad. 

    Strangely enough, we've actually had to turn up the heat on a couple of occasions since we've moved here. Last night again. Personally, I like a very cool house, but my wife, not quite as much. 

    At the condo where we lived, I had had the AC on for a couple of weeks already. So I'm thinking that the summer here in this house may not be as bad as it would have been somewhere else. As long as I stay in. :)

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/09 18:32:03 (permalink)
    82 degrees in New York today. The sandals came out, complete with milky white feet. In fact the amount of bright white flesh on display in Manhattan today was frightening. 

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/10 08:38:31 (permalink)
    yeah, it's nice in the mornings up here.... and the repair guy can't be here until Friday in the morning.... so..... 

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/10 08:54:50 (permalink)
    Atleast it started before the heat of the summer.

    They should have a light work load right now to get ya squared away compared to when its hot outside. Most this time of year will have their guys doing maintenance tune ups just to keep them busy.

    Who knows, maybe its something simple and don't need replaced. Sometimes when a comp locks, ya can get a BIG knockometer (Hammer) and smack it good and it frees it back up .  Seen it work a few times as an emergency quick fix.  Then that might not even be the problem-who knows?

    Anyway, hope they get it taken care of Herb 


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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/10 09:22:20 (permalink)
    Herb,

    At least yours went out in the Spring.  Ours went out last summer in July....in Texas....over 100 degrees.  Not good.  We had to have the entire unit replaced and it took over a week to get on his schedule and replaced.  If we did n't have some family in Dallas it would have been a pretty miserable week in July.  I have always said that Texas needs to put up a monument to the man that invented AC.

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/10 09:50:38 (permalink)
    As I read the post, I was think 'circuit breaker, circuit breaker'. This happens to me a lot in spring when first starting up the AC. When that does the job, what a relief. Sorry that your issue is bigger. But as Mike said, better now than mid-summer.

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/10 09:52:53 (permalink)
    Every spring I had to replace a fuse with my A/C...  No idea why.

     
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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/10 13:48:43 (permalink)
     85 here in the North east today.....seems you have similar weather there. Maybe...just maybe it's a shorted connection outside the compressor somewhere. That's the optimist talking. Sometimes a contactor can hang up and drain too much current.

     Being in HVAC, I have been a little busy around here....Like others have said it couldn't have happened at a better time. You have the time to get it fixed  before the big heat comes.

     Look for wire "rub throughs" or bad connections to the compressor or very possibly a start capacitor.Check everything but the compressor first. If the windings are shorted to ground though...it's not good.

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/10 13:51:52 (permalink)
    it was 28 degrees here last night....
    and snow...

    and hurricane force winds.

    ugh.

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/10 14:08:27 (permalink)
    Get someone you trust Herb. The last few times mine has gone out it was a capacitor. I hope yours isn't the compressor but it is always something huh?

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/10 14:20:20 (permalink)
    it was 28 degrees here last night.... and snow... and hurricane force winds. ugh.

     
    Dang man... I realize someone needs to live in SLC but does it have to be you?? Ahhhh, I am kidding, Utah is exactly where I would live if I wasn't so tied by family and business to GA. I love northeast Utah and WY. (I am guessing that SL.UT is Salt Lake.)
     
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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/10 21:54:01 (permalink)
    I slapped it wit a brick... yeah I heard about the "hit it with a hammer" thing.

    I checked the starting cap.... I have a meter that reads capacitance. 

    The breaker is good. I can put my amp meter on the wires and double check that in the morning....

    I'm pretty sure the compressor rotor is locked.

    The service guy is the same one who installed it and I went to church with him for a time. I think he's honest. A few things he has said and done have reinforced that to me. 

    It's still hot up here....


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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/11 08:27:49 (permalink)
    He hasn't made it out to ya yet? - Ughh  the heat sucks
     
    The only other trick I can think of but Im sure you don't have one laying around is a Hot Start Capacitor.  Id add them to help save energy but they are made to really juice the motor and get it going fast saving electricity on compressor motor start ups
     
    Hope he gets out there soon.  Cant imagine you trying to work in a Sauna and trying to enjoy a hot cup of coffee as you work up there
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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/11 08:29:57 (permalink)
    It's almost Friday.  I'm glad you've got somebody you trust for this one.  That can make a big difference.
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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/11 09:02:12 (permalink)
    Yeah Mike, that's what he said he would try first. 

    I certainly hope that works.  

    He's busy right now on a job out of town, so that's why he's slow in getting here. 

    Tomorrow morning at 9am......... 

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/11 11:52:20 (permalink)
    Woot Woot,

    Hope it works out, its worth a shot and if its kick on, run it till it dies again then replace the unit

    There is coolness in the near future 


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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/11 12:35:33 (permalink)
    I did a similar thing with on old Curtis Mathes TV I had. We had that TV since the early days, I think before we even got married. Anyway we noticed the pic wasn't as bright as it had been and turning up the brightness knob to full had already been done. 

    I saw a "tube brightner" in one of the parts magazines I got in the mail so I ordered one and installed it. 

    It revived that old tube.... the pic was bright enough that I could turn the brightness back down a bit. We ended up giving that TV to my mom since she was using a very old TV that was in bad shape....and refused to buy a new one. She used that CM that we gave her, for a number of years until my brother broke down and bought her a new flat screen when she moved to the hills with him. 

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/11 14:59:01 (permalink)
    I went out and bought a "hard start" booster. Hooked it up and I almost thought it was gonna go. 

    But nope....  there is a dead short in the compressor. So, I guess it's new package unit time. But the upside is I can get a unit that is more efficient and cools this office a tad bit better than the old one did. 

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/14 18:40:19 (permalink)
    Whats the good word Herb?



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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/14 18:46:10 (permalink)
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    Whats the good word Herb?


    Out here (near Portland) many people think "Herb" is the good word!

     
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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/14 20:10:31 (permalink)
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    Whats the good word Herb?


    Out here (near Portland) many people think "Herb" is the good word!

      Same thing round these parts
     


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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/15 12:57:01 (permalink)
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    I went out and bought a "hard start" booster. Hooked it up and I almost thought it was gonna go. 

    But nope....  there is a dead short in the compressor. So, I guess it's new package unit time. But the upside is I can get a unit that is more efficient and cools this office a tad bit better than the old one did. 



     Let me guess...the compressor probably has Huang Dong stamped on it....or embraco. I guess you can tell I'm not a fan of those things. If your running R22 it's probably not a bad time to go to R410A. R22 will soon pass the price of gold.

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    Re:It's hot up here... 2013/04/15 20:18:57 (permalink)
    I'm awaiting a quote for the replacement.  Compressor is shot.  Dead short electrically. 

    The good news is I can get better efficiency and more cooling power. Some of the 95+ degree days would have it hard pressed to keep it comfortable up there. 


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