SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock

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2013/04/17 15:45:03 (permalink)

SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock

Hi,
I've got a new song out. It's called "Between a place and a hard rock" - you can check it out here:
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12277210
 
It features the usual cast of characters, but gives a chance for my bass player,
Mr Trilian, to take a little solo on the acoustic bass ;-)
 
It's all done on SONAR X2.
 
As usual, all comments gratefully accepted (good or bad) ;-)
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    theguitarplayer
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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/17 22:51:11 (permalink)
    Very, very different. I don't know what genre this would go into either. Like I said very, very different. You did accomplish time for your bass player and he did a great job with this strange piece. Different but actually not to bad, but needs some work.

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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/18 04:34:39 (permalink)
    Thanks for listening John.
     
    You do know that the bass is just the Trilian synth right?
     
     
    but needs some work
    What parts don't you like?

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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/20 12:12:49 (permalink)
    You look awful young in that picture, you sure your dad knows your playing this wild and psychedelic music?
    Seriously I really liked several of your songs on soundclick, very creative and the sounds and effects are well placed. The mix and sound quality are pro, I can only wish. I don't want to give away my generation but this has broad appeal. I'm still new at using Sonar, midi keyboard, and bunch other stuff I still don't fully know how or what it does. But when I hear music like yours I can see whats out there.
    When I lay tracks for backing, I can not get the bass track to sound genuine, sounds like it comes from the keyboard (Broomstick, Cakewalk). I notice you said you used Trilian Synth, any other tricks with it? Sounds excellent and real, I need that. I considered getting a bass guitar, but I have very short fingers, hard enough to play my guitar, but every bass I've tried the frets are too far apart, maybe if I use my toes. Would love honest feedback on my last two pieces, especially vol mix, can't hurt my feelings so bring it on. thanks captg
     
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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/20 16:28:30 (permalink)
    Thanks for your feedback Capt. Without giving away my generation (I'm old) it took me a long time to learn how to get the bass part right. I don't know broomstick bass - but I think it's pretty good. Trilian is wonderful and I just take my time and work out good bass lines (on a keyboard) and then pay special attention to mixing it to fit in with the kick drum. I've slowly learned how to get the frequencies to sit right, and of course it's a never ending learning curve.

    My advice would be to just listen to good bass lines and practice playing them on the keyboard.


    I'll go listen to your stuff tomorrow (or Mon) and get back to you - but in the meantime, thanks for listening, and getting in touch.
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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/20 21:54:59 (permalink)
    John - I think this is genius. You have a great talent - good imagination - play well. What more can I say - I love this.

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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/21 06:43:28 (permalink)
    Hey, thanks a lot for listening Clean - that's really nice of you.
     
     
     
    I think this is genius

    slight overstatement

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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/21 06:51:22 (permalink)
    Hey CaptainG -
    Sadguitar - I really like this! If you want a hint for the bass, follow the kick drum. (IMHO) it wants to go da da, da, da da...
    Hey, at the end - (around 3:48) it's starting to do that.
     
    The song is excellent though. I'd do a cover if it wasn't plagery ;-)
     
     
    You Cool - Well, I like the other one better. This one could maybe use a bass line with some action in it ;-)
    Still, this one has potential too ;-)
     
     
     

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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/21 07:47:18 (permalink)
    Reminds me of our old friend No How, who wrote similarly accessible groovy off-kilterness. The bass sounds great. I would vary the velocities here and there if you want a more convincing "real" bass.
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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/21 10:35:43 (permalink)
    This takes me back to my garage band days when we would jam stuff like this for hours.  It is evocative of an era, and made me feel nostalgic.  Nice job.

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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/22 04:57:44 (permalink)
    I would vary the velocities here and there if you want a more convincing "real" bass.
    You see - we all have something to learn! ;-)
    I'll have a look at this next time...
     
    Thanks for listening and for the comments James and Lynn ;-)

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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/22 10:44:28 (permalink)
    I like Lynn's comment. This is probably what Steely Dan would have jammed before they made it.

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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/22 11:17:53 (permalink)

    John Braner
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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/22 12:28:00 (permalink)
    Yeah, I can hear RickNoHow doing something like this.  I sure wonder where he is!  John, this is really an interesting thought translated into interesting music.  I liked the bass.  I liked the whole concept and performance.

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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/22 12:34:02 (permalink)
    Thanks a lot for listening Warren! and for the nice words
     
    Also thanks guitarpima.

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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/22 14:02:44 (permalink)
    John,
     
    Cool jam, reminds me a bit of "A Girl Like You" by Edwyn Collins.  Sounds really good and enjoyed listening.   I like the little sound effects you have added throughout, nice touch...
     
     
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    Re:SONG: Between aplace and a hard rock 2013/04/22 14:06:41 (permalink)
    Thanks a lot for listening Mark. I can see where it reminds you of that song ;-)
    It's actually based on a bass lick in a song by EST (a jazz trio) - but as is usual - these songs start with an idea like that, and then grow into something completely unrecognisable. ;-) 

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