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2013/04/25 07:38:05 (permalink)

Is there a MIDI compressor available ?

Trying to tame some of the midi hi-hats from my old midi files. Some was produced by the old Roland R8 humanized function.

Running it through the BOSS DR880 seems fine, but with Session Drummer 3, some very low velocity didn't seems to come out (or rather soft).

The Cakewalk FX - Velocity will just set a low and upper velocity limit. I'm looking at an effect that would maintain the velocity ratio.

Any build-in midi compressor fx that I might have missed ? 

if none, any good free vst recommendation ?  or a good commercial midi compressor ?

Thanks.

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Re:Is there a MIDI compressor available ? 2013/04/25 07:46:48 (permalink)
Go to interpolate - velocity, and make an area of for example 30-100 and change it to 57-127. I'm not at my computer now, maybe "interpolate" is called "change" or something now. =)
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Re:Is there a MIDI compressor available ? 2013/04/25 07:55:20 (permalink)
Thanks Leizer.

I might have missed out on other feature of the Cake Velocity fx.. I shall check it out.

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Re:Is there a MIDI compressor available ? 2013/04/25 08:05:19 (permalink)
There is a reference here

http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=EditingMIDI.57.html

Don't seems to have the compressor function.. The "Change" and "Gradually" option can't be activated (probably can't activate as VST).

Still looking..

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Re:Is there a MIDI compressor available ? 2013/04/25 08:12:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Its not a VST thing. You just mark the whole track and manually change the values. Go to "process" menu and choose "find/change". In there just enter the velocity values, leave the rest.
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Re:Is there a MIDI compressor available ? 2013/04/25 08:31:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
There should also be a CAL script that will do this. I've used it before and it works fairly well.

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Re:Is there a MIDI compressor available ? 2013/04/25 10:14:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Check out this article...
* Compressing MIDI Velocities in Cakewalk SONAR
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/tip.asp?ID=1

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Re:Is there a MIDI compressor available ? 2013/04/25 11:32:17 (permalink)
Thanks!

The Process : Find/Change does exactly that.

The CAL scripts are a bit complicated to understand what each file does, reading it's short file name.. but I know the scripts can add powerful features. Wondering if there is a detail documentation what each scrip does (I suspected there must be.. just have not search them up yet..).

Thanks again Leizer, Dan and Scott. Great tips.

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Re:Is there a MIDI compressor available ? 2013/04/25 16:46:03 (permalink)
Many CAL scripts have detailed instructions embedded in their code.  You can open a CAL script in any text editor (such as Windows Notepad) to see them.
Check out C-MPLMIT.CAL which may be what you're looking for.  Here's part of the description:
 
";;; This is a CAL program that acts similar to an electronic compressor/
;;;  limiter by scaling velocity and adding some set amount to velocity
;;;  to make up for losses caused by the scaling.
;;;
;;;  It allows you to set an upper limit for the compressed velocities."
 
Hope this helps!
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Re:Is there a MIDI compressor available ? 2013/04/25 19:58:29 (permalink)
Ntonyx Note adjuster does that...I think

http://www.ntonyx.com/mk01.htm
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Re:Is there a MIDI compressor available ? 2013/04/25 20:06:15 (permalink)
The problem with NTONYX Note Adjuster is that it does not work with 64bit Windows. Hopefully they will update their MFX stuff soon, like they just did with the Style Enhancer Micro. Glad to have SEM back.
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Re:Is there a MIDI compressor available ? 2013/04/26 08:39:23 (permalink)
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Thanks!

The Process : Find/Change does exactly that.

The CAL scripts are a bit complicated to understand what each file does, reading it's short file name.. but I know the scripts can add powerful features. Wondering if there is a detail documentation what each scrip does (I suspected there must be.. just have not search them up yet..).

Thanks again Leizer, Dan and Scott. Great tips.

You can rename the scripts. Sonar does not care what they are called as long as the file extension isn't changed. They also aren't all that hard to edit if you want one that does something slightly different from a stock script.
 
Also, Ntonyx updated their MIDI styles utility to 64bit. This adds some pretty nice "humaness" to MIDI tracks, like if you are recording a flute passage, the utility can automatically generate CC values (that you pick) to automate expression, breath, etc. It can take some if the tedium out of recording a very expressive track. Just save your work first in case the changes aren't what you expected.
 
Regards,
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