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Sorry Mike I misunderstood you. I am assuming you have PT is that right and you are currently using a RTAS version of a plugin. Good news (or bad) is that when PT11 comes out you wont be able to use RTAS or TDM at all. AVID in their usual style have gone to great lengths to make it as hard as possible to use any previous plugins etc.

AAX will be the only standard. I don't think there will be a wrapper either. You will probably have to buy the plugin again. AVID want you to spend money over and over again, simple as that. That is the main reason I refuse to invest in any of their products. You will have to spend $300 to get from PT10 to PT11 I would say and really $300 every year to keep up. Is it worth it?  PT is aimed at professional environments where the costs can be absorbed. They are not really interested in the small time user.

My son's girlfriend had PT8 on her Mac laptop and she upgraded her Mac OS rendering PT8 completely useless. There is no upgrade path from PT8 to PT10 or PT11. She has to spend $700 to buy a complete new version. Is that fair do you think.

I have advised her to go for Studio One Free which is free and does exactly what she needs. All versions of Studio One work on all Windows and Mac OS versions. Nice of them don't you agree.

Jeff, 

I think I remember you mentioning a M-Box and Pro Tools, so I assume you're talking about Pro Tools LE. Just to be clear, there is an upgrade path for Pro Tools LE 8 or earlier, but not for the original M Box or 001 owners. 

http://www.sweetwater.com/feature/protools11/

Agreed, it does suck for original MBox owners. That being said,neither the 001 or the MBox are supported w/ PT 11.


For me the upgrade is $400 - I'm still evaluating my options. I'm using Logic for all my work these days but I'd hate to lose the upgrade path.

I know what you mean. I'm still on 10.6.8 here and I have no intention to upgrade OS until I buy a new machine. In fact, considering the system requirements for version 11, I won't even bother installing version 11 on this machine. 

That being said, if she has a sufficiently powerful machine, it could maybe work - even if PT is not officially supported. For example, I'm running NI's Solid Mix on Snow Leopard even if officially, it requires Lion or Mountain Lion.

But it is quite expensive, as you say. And this upgrade in particular seems to be the object of much thoughts among my Pro Tools using pals. Particularly those who used to depend on the Production ToolKit (which was already darn expensive) - now their only option is to upgrade HD.

Pro Tools expert had a really cool tutorial recently showing you how to use Pro Tools in conjunction w/ MainStage as a host for Audio Unit plug-in instruments and effects, taking advantage of the the aggregate audio devices feature of Mac OS. It works pretty much like a re-wired synth rack.

Now that plus the new offline bounce in 11 and the rewritten audio engine could eventually mean Pro Tools getting used a whole lot more around here.

t seems as if the primary developer of Lexicon's Native DSP left and started his own company a couple years ago and many people are pointing out that Lexicon doesn't have a ready answer to questions about updates. Michael Carnes has a website and two products offered here: http://www.exponentialaudio.com/

If you haven't yet purchased the Lexicon bundle, checkout the Exponential Audio Pheonix Verb.
It sounds fantastic... (better than the PCM bundle IMO)

Hi Mike,

Phoenix Verb works well here under both Win8x64 and Win7x64 (v1.2 update released recently).
Sounds great... and it's pretty easy on the CPU.

Relab 480xl sounds fantastic (if you're after that dense 480L sound)
NI Lexicon models are also pretty darn good.
Valhalla Room and Vintage Reverb sound very good too (especially for the cost).

We're a little spoiled with quality reverb options.
Listening to Pheonix, you can tell it's a reverb of high pedigree.

On a recent Facebook post Lexicon Pro respond to the AAX question:
“ I can say this is in the works. Unfortunately it is and will take longer that we hoped, but we are working it…and it will be a 100% free update.”