Some Crackling in the Render?

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May 30, 13 6:34 PM (permalink)

Some Crackling in the Render?

Hey guys. I am trying to figure this out.. So basically I am just about done this song. I send my artist this version:

http://elijahlucian.ca/produced/Jen-Home-Final.wav

Can I get somebody to listen.. "There is a bit of snapping / crackling in the audio at around 0:17, 0:19, a mouth noise at 0:21, and more crackling at 0:24, 0:27, 0:31, 0:35, 0:37.  They seem to be gone by the first chorus...


can I get any advice from yall about thisÉÉ


(DAMNIT MY KEYBOARD IS DOING THE È instad of the question mark!!!!!!)


Thanks guys. I just need to get this wrapped up. 


EDIT some BG info

Im using the latest Sonar x2 64
im using massive a bunch
im using alloy in a bunch of channels
...and i am using 2 ozones on the output (HIDES FROM THROWN OBJECTS) 


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    John
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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 6:45 PM (permalink)
    Are you overloading your CPU? I would raise the audio buffers. 

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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 6:45 PM (permalink)
    Does this matter on renderÉ I will try it! I have never had this problem before...


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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 6:46 PM (permalink)
    oh sorry and to answer. I am not getting crackling when Im listening in project...


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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 6:51 PM (permalink)
      It shouldn't but the amount of processing that is going on is substantial. Therefore I would try the solution. You may want to see if you can do without the extra Ozone.  

    I should say the song sounds outstanding. But that is not the issue. 

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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 6:53 PM (permalink)
    haha Thanks, John. I tried a render w/o ozone at all.. but it's still there... 


    this is my cpu useage without ozone at the heaviest part of the song.. ill try increasing the buffer to some crazy amount and render again... 


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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 7:00 PM (permalink)
    Its that first core that is most likely the problem. 

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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 7:02 PM (permalink)
    hmmm.. well how do i make it so the software divides the work into seperate cores?


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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 7:04 PM (permalink)
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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 7:18 PM (permalink)
    Alt + Shift used to switch the keyboard back to normal on my Acer. Might be different on your. Just google the model number and Alt Character. For some reason though my laptop doesn't switch to French anymore. Weird. And yeah... for the dropouts I'd increase the buffers and make sure you uncheck Fast Bounce when you export.
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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 7:49 PM (permalink)
    Hey guys, I went and froze all my synths and that seemed to do the trick... thanks for all the hints.. Just seems strange to me how having too many things to process would cause clicks in the render... isn't a render supposed to take as long as it needs to in order to export a good copy? 

    especially with how my cpu was only using 1 core at around 40 percent.. kind of strange


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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 8:01 PM (permalink)
    Not all the time. Under some circumstances exporting can require more processing then playback. Often times for example for time stretching on line render is less imposing because we can live with a little lower quality. With exporting higher quality algorithms are used requiring more CPU. 


    But in your case it was the added burden of the synths that may have caused the problem. A freeze is a good idea for those situations. I freeze my synths long before I am going to export. When I mix I try to mix only the audio. 

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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 8:16 PM (permalink)
    Yeah, John I agree. I should get in the habit.. Too much tweaking while you mix and you get getting set back to square one... heh..

    Thanks agian! I'll let you know if the problem comes around agian.


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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 8:22 PM (permalink)
    elijahlucian


    Yeah, John I agree. I should get in the habit.. Too much tweaking while you mix and you get getting set back to square one... heh..

    Thanks agian! I'll let you know if the problem comes around agian.

    You make an excellent point there. But that is what Unfreeze is for. LOL. Which often puts me back to square one. 

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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 30, 13 8:58 PM (permalink)
    I hear the cracking.... subtle but there.... the track didn;t play well on this computer but I heard about 30 seconds of the track. 

    Is the cracking evident in the PLAYBACK as you listen? If not, it's coming in during the export..... If it's there in playback, find it in the tracks.... solo and mute the various tracks until you find it. then you may be able to envelope it out.... or you might need some other fix/solution to eliminate it.    

    If the playback is clean.....Lower your levels before you export.... pull the master output for the sound card down. It might be clipping on peaks...  the track sounded good, but loud. Don't push the levels..... you can always make it louder later.... not that super loud is important. Artist demo just needs to sound good.

    Mouth noise.... lip smacks..... breath sounds.... all that needs to be edited out in the track. It's not something that you try to fix in the mastering mix stage. I use envelopes and process audio mute to eliminate those sounds at the source. 


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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 31, 13 1:18 AM (permalink)
    Guitar hacker. 

    Thanks for the input. Yeah it was happening during render and I am still pretty confused as to exactly what was causing them. 

    I think you were right thwt mix was quite hot. It's been fixed since haha. She actually wanted to keep the breaths. Gotta do what the person paying you wants fortunately it still sounds good even wwith the breaths. They add a certain expression. 


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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 31, 13 3:52 AM (permalink)
    Did you use fast bounce for your export or real time?

    If the former, then a real time bounce might have solved the problem.

    If the latter, forget anything I just said

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    Re:Some Crackling in the Render? May 31, 13 8:23 AM (permalink)
    Yeah... some breath sounds do add character.... lip smacks and such don't.  And with envelopes.... you can lower the levels of the breaths a bit without removing them completely. 

    fast bounce vs slow bounce..... some times you gotta slow down and smell the roses.... 

    did the lower level export work? 

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