Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune

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2013/05/25 10:49:54 (permalink)

Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune

My first try at something you can dance to.
 
https://soundcloud.com/jeroen-van-engelenhoven/digital-photograph
 
Please let me know if you have any ideas to make it sound better/more DJ/more professional/more club-like/etc.!
 
And also let me know what style you could call this (apart from 'crap', that is... )
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    speedtom
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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/27 03:58:57 (permalink)
    nice track! I like the melodies you are creating with the synth, and the constant background (string) synth tone makes it lean towards some kind of ambient style. what I am missing are vocals, at least some short vocal samples.

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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/27 05:30:01 (permalink)
    Thanks for listening!

    Well, it IS an instrumental...  but a vocal sample might be a good idea indeed. I didn't want to make an actual song of it (too much trouble with writing lyrics  ) but indeed, adding at least something human, might add some more life to it all. Then again, there are quite a lot of 'hits' that are completely instrumental.

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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/27 06:23:50 (permalink)
    Definitely ambient, nice chilled groove.  Good work.
     
    Would check out adding some transitions and FX.  Also, some vocal or even natural sounds, doesn't have to be human. :-)
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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/27 06:30:46 (permalink)
    I listened to There It Is and Join In (which was so much different to the other two) too, while I was there.

    Nice stuff

    What synths and stuff do you use?

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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/27 07:00:03 (permalink)

    forkol


    Definitely ambient, nice chilled groove.  Good work. 
      
    Would check out adding some transitions and FX.  Also, some vocal or even natural sounds, doesn't have to be human. :-) 

    Thanks! So ambient it is, ok, thanks!  

    Yes, I know about the missing transitions and FX. My first goal was to make some basic dance music and work out how things work a little: next on the list are indeed the almost mandatory transitions and 'build ups'.  And another vote for some vocals so I will definitely look into that!
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    I listened to There It Is and Join In (which was so much different to the other two) too, while I was there.

    Nice stuff

    What synths and stuff do you use?

    LOL Yes, Join in is something different indeed.  
    Thanks for listening to it all and for the compliment!

    For the dance tunes I only used (various instances of) Battery and Massive (the versions that came with Komplete 8). I only used presets and didn't yet edit sounds. I usually don't use a lot of different synths: I rather get to know one well then a lot not too well. I did of course add some reverb, delay, EQ, etc. on some tracks. I used Ozone on the master (one of the Electronic dance presets).




    BTW I was expecting some remarks about the bass drum and the bass but apparently they are quite okay and not too hidden (drowned) in the mix...? On There it is I used side chaining to keep the bass drum out of the synths but in the end only the effect it has on the synth stands out (the deliberate pumping), not so much the advantage of keeping the bass drum upfront. I think the biggest challenge with the upcoming similar projects will be just that: keeping things transparent and the bass upfront.

    BTW 2 On Join in I used an EZdrummer preset (usually I don't use drum pattern presets) and for the instruments mainly Dim Pro (I think) and RealGuitar and RealStrat.

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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/27 08:57:19 (permalink)
    Loved the sounds. Great job and groove.

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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/27 09:20:49 (permalink)
    Wonderful sonic imagination, the sound you chose fit together very well. This is definitely 'Ambient'--it's the unchanging chord that comes in at 0:17 and then stays that makes it ambient. Figuring out style gets pretty complicated, there are so many categories--tempo, bass pattern and sounds, kick pattern, sampling and what's being sampled, much more. BassNectar gives a fascinating interview here talking about dance music style differences: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFLe3MEDwv4
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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/27 09:48:56 (permalink)
     
    This is cool.
     
    Production is very crisp and clear, and I really like how you've built up the various parts of the song as it progresses.
     
    Great job!
     
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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/27 15:07:39 (permalink)
    Wow, thanks for listening and the compliments, chasmcg, UltimateMusicSnob and SteveStrummerUK!!! 

    And thanks for the link to that interview, UltimateMusicSnob: just watched, it was very helpful! I never really knew what all those terms meant.

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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/28 14:37:42 (permalink)
    it is not very clubby IMO, still I think it is a good tune. One of the better amateur tunes (not really sure whether you are) I have heard recently.

    Can you describe how that particular Ozone Electronic dance preset works? (orbably screenshot)
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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/29 08:18:38 (permalink)
    Thanks for the compliment, FunkLoop. Yes, I am an amateur: it's nothing but a hobby: making music on the PC on the attic.  So you not knowing if I am an amateur or not is a huge compliment!  (Hm, maybe I should quit my job now and er... naaaah... 
    Usually I make more pop/rock/alternative oriented music but a big part of my hobby is to try various styles. Since my son (who sings for a hobby) got into contact with some DJ's who are (afaik) professional (with a record deal and all) and I had a closer listen to the music they made, I decided to give it a try myself. 

    How that preset works: well, you select it and that's it LOL. Seriously, I would indeed have to make a few screenshots to show the inner workings: I'll see if I can do that this week! Stay tuned.


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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/29 15:12:12 (permalink)
    I have to say, this was not what I was expecting. It's a pleasant surprise and reminds me of the diversity within the EDM world. Very well done. I'm sure others have already mention this, but since you have komplete, Absynth is great for the kinds of textures used in this sub-genre. Rapture will also be of great use as well. You are off to a great start.
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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/29 22:59:18 (permalink)
    It has been a while since we have seen you down here. Great tune. As I well know that you are capable of a stellar vocal performance if you so choose, I fully understand the desire to do a pure instrumental. Excellent work mon ami.

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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/30 02:58:17 (permalink)
    @dubdisciple: thanks for the compliments. And yes, Absynth is on my list of software to instal asap. 


    @foxwolfen: long time no see indeed, mon ami! It's been a while although I have been making music but not for myself, so there wasn't much to show here. Thanks for the kind words! Who knows, maybe I will sample my own voice one day in a tune like this.  I am not that much into samples, just like I don't like to use existing audio loops etc., so if I am ever going to add audio to dance tune, it will be my own audio.  But not having to write lyrics and having to do 'a stellar vocal performance'  (and all the editing afterwards, haha!!!) is quite relaxing, I have to say...!

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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/30 03:16:52 (permalink)

    Hey not bad , very cool indeed ! Nice work , lots of changes going on and very smooth listening .
    The licking noise what is that ? I picture this big golden frog hopping around sucking up bugs off the dance floor , WILD !!

    Thanks for sharing , mix sounded great in my ears - James
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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/30 04:13:08 (permalink)
    Thanks for the compliments, James!

    Concerning the licking noise LOL!!! I have no clue what it really is, but it's a sound from Battery and to ME it sounded like a camera shutter sound (hence the title of the tune). I did add another 'plopping' sound to it, though, which may make it sound all different (so in fact that sound is two sounds). I have to say though I really like your description!!! 

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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/30 09:06:03 (permalink)
    hellogoodbye


    Thanks for the compliments, James!

    Concerning the licking noise LOL!!! I have no clue what it really is, but it's a sound from Battery and to ME it sounded like a camera shutter sound (hence the title of the tune). I did add another 'plopping' sound to it, though, which may make it sound all different (so in fact that sound is two sounds). I have to say though I really like your description!!! 

     
             That would had made one heck of a WILD crazy dream , THE GOLDEN
             DANCING BUG LICKING FROG ! LOL
     
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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/30 09:09:52 (permalink)
    THE NIGHT FOX
    That would had made one heck of a WILD crazy dream , THE GOLDEN 
    DANCING BUG LICKING FROG ! LOL
     
    I feel another tune coming up...!!! 


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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/30 10:50:08 (permalink)
    This works very well and the mix sounds good here.

    Thanks for sharing

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    Re:Digital Photograph: my first er... electronic dance tune 2013/05/30 12:35:04 (permalink)
    My pleasure, Wookiee.

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