Clip Gain Part2 Automation Bug

How thoroughly have you reviewed the manual's section on working with automation envelopes? There are a lot of very specific commands that need to be used to get the desired results and I believe there have been quite a few changes since X1. I had a bugger of a time trying to get nodes/envelopes to do what I wanted until I went over all that stuff and would still need to have the manual open or my notes to make it all work. It's rather cumbersome IMO but it does work. It could be bugs or something but if you don't have all the tricks memorized you may want to review that stuff. Good luck.

beepster, thanks for the empathy. i have thoroughly read the manual in and out. if you watch the video and attempt step by step what the narrator is doing, you will see what i mean. stevec, the question you ask is the exact one i'm asking too and is part of the apparent bug. when i click/drag in the volume automation lane upon release it will highlight the actual clip! and this is after i make sure to select just the volume automation lane in the left window. it has nothing to do with steady hand...you can see the level bar when scrolling to upper third of lane, but no combintion of shift click drag control etc is doing anything other than moving the cursor in the time line. and if this isnt annoying enough, when i collapse automation lanes and thrn reopen, automated mute defauts back to ON, even if ive turned it off and saved. and as final confirmstion of being nadty bug, my cursor arrow disappeared at one point behind the sonar window... total nightmare.

Okay, just thought I'd mention it. It's starting to sound like you are having the selection bug blues. X2 has MASSIVE problems with selecting things (nodes, tracks, clips, midi events, etc) and it is a nightmare once it starts doing it. It is one of the very few complaints I have with X2 but it's a doozy. They absolutely need to patch this. Doesn't seem to affect everyone though otherwise the queue would be filled with people screaming bloody murder over it. PLEASE for the love of all that is noisy fix this, Bakers! It is extremely unprofessional and frustrating.

stevec thanks for the troubleshoot tips but unfortunately i am attempting the exact process sequence you use, as well as any other combo i can think of. i am having trouble even if i manually place nodes. must be like beepster mentioned. im working with very dynamic vocal tracks and like to level off takes before processing otherwise....being able to quickly nudge a phrase +3db has become a headache along with the automated mute always mysteriously turning back on. so i have to use other DAW on raw tracks and then import into Sonar (like i do with tuning vocz too)

Actually, I can't remember specifically but I think there are ways to lock lanes and nodes. If that is the case it might help reduce some of the issues you are having. I'm really not certain though so I wouldn't want to send you on a wild goose chase.

Haven't noticed that one and I've done quite a bit of editing but I'll keep an eye out for it. Very strange.

gerberbaby, something you can try is to use a different screenset to the one you're currently in.

I find a lot of Sonar's graphical/selection problems are a direct result of a corrupt screenset.