silvercn
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Vocal processing --good reference
I was just listening to the song "Real Love Can't Pretend" by Griffin House. I really like how that vocal is processed and wondering if some of the experts out there can give a listen to that and analyze some things for me:
-Is that reverb on there, delay or a combo of both
-If verb, what parameter settings do you guess were used.
-Any other info you can gleen from it...
Thanks - to me this would be a good vocal processing to emulate.
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Re:Vocal processing --good reference
2013/05/30 12:34:40
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The only version I found was a live one. Not much help on vocal effects. Let us know if there is a studio version out there.
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silvercn
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Re:Vocal processing --good reference
2013/05/30 13:31:07
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I heard it on Serius XM - Coffee House channel - it sure sounded studio. I will check further.
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Re:Vocal processing --good reference
2013/05/30 13:43:03
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a link to the song would be helpful. Other than that... I got nothing.
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Re:Vocal processing --good reference
2013/05/30 21:32:11
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Yeah, if you want people to analyse an obscure song that isn't readily available, you're going to need to provide a link so we can hear it...
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silvercn
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Re:Vocal processing --good reference
2013/05/30 21:57:57
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Working on it ----- - thanks for the reminders.
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silvercn
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Re:Vocal processing --good reference
2013/05/30 22:40:20
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On second thought I don't think this is going to work this way....it is a commercial song, I would have to buy it, download it, and then what. Don't think I can share it anyway here. I will exam it myself on my DAW. thanks !
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Re:Vocal processing --good reference
2013/05/31 00:08:03
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I accessed a sample of it through iTunes (preview).
Nice vox processing. I don't think there is a delay in there. It's a nice hall reverb. Long tail. Long pre delay. I think it's the pre delay which is making it sound like there is a delay in there. He's recorded it in a very dry vocal booth which sounds nicely balanced - ie I doubt it is a small boxy home studio one. Most likely a condensor mic, maybe about a foot away I would guess.
I think the main thing is it's a really nice reverb algorithm. Might even be an impulse. It sounds very smooth and complex. Lots of diffusion (a setting on most reverbs). It's in the mix quite subly. It's probably eqed quite well so it doesn't clash with the main vox and sits separate (pre delay helps with that too) and this helps keep the reverb strong but without pushing the vocal back in the mix - it's still very upfront.
It's possible there is a delay on there which has then been diffused with a heavy reverb blanket to hide it and make it subtle. So you might use a 1/2 tempo delay time and then run the wet delay through a reverb set to 100% wet with no early reflections or pre delay, and then blend that in with the original reverb that's also in there. But again, I suspect it's probably just the pre-delay that's giving it that sound.
It could also be possibly the early reflections that are quite strong and giving the 'delay' sound and then the 'reverb' is backed off sitting under that. The two might well have been separated and edited individually. Different equing to provide the right space, compression? Who knows. There are SO many things that could have been done. Experiment and see what you can come up with!
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silvercn
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Re:Vocal processing --good reference
2013/05/31 00:39:45
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I appreciate you following up on this. It just struck me as very nice - as I listening just on ear buds from my XM radio (shhhh while I was driving on my commute). Glad to have confirmation that is is good vocal processing. You gave me a lot of ideas to try on my vocal track. I am going to download it to use as a reference piece for overall spectrum as well as the reverb / delay stuff; but was interested it how it might be pulled apart by another recording person....
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Re:Vocal processing --good reference
2013/05/31 01:53:06
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silvercn
You gave me a lot of ideas to try on my vocal track.
It actually gave me some ideas in the process analysing it and thinking about ways to re-create it! So thanks for bringing it up! I'd love it if some other people check it out on iTunes and give their opinion too. I'd be interested to hear some other perspectives on it. It was actually really easy to find and I didn't think of looking there at first.
post edited by mattplaysguitar - 2013/05/31 01:54:47
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