Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue (More Users Confirm!)

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May 30, 13 5:39 PM (permalink)

Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue (More Users Confirm!)

Hi Gang...
 
I posted a problem report about this a little while ago and I got back a status report to contact tech as it appears to be working and must be system specific...
 
The problem is with the ProChannel Post Status button... If I have it enabled and I clone the track, the cloned track does NOT have the Post status enabled...
 
I have tried this on two machines here...
 
1) MacPro/bootcamp/Win7x64 (dual 3.2GHz Xeons/16GB RAM Presonus Audiobox 1818VDL+Soundsscape SS8io-1 via ADAT
 
2) Below spec dual core running Vista32 with a Soundscape Mixtreme 192
 
Tech support tried on a number of machines but it works fine there....
 
It exhibits this on both machines... Common denominator? they were both installed from the same disk for X2 and the same d/l for X2a.... and I'm not prepared to re-do the install for such an issue.... PITA, but not worth the work of re-doing all the setup I have...
 
So for the moment, I'm just trying to see if there are any other users out there who experience this...
 
Again, the recipe is simple....
 
Start a new project.
Enable PC on an audio track
Set the PC to Post
Clone the track with all options selected (except link to original clip)
 
Then check the PC status on the cloned track and see if it is set to Post (enabled)...
 
Much thanks for anyone/everyone's help...
 
Keni
 
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BTW I just ruled out eh X2 disk (install) or the X2a update (d/l) as it happens on both machines even as far back as X1 Expanded... so I'm surprised I took this long to notice...
 
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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 30, 13 7:41 PM (permalink)
    Works here Keni I'm running 32 bit sonar on 64 bit win 7. I tried it several times.
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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 30, 13 8:13 PM (permalink)
      I followed your instructions and the cloned track came up with PC being post FX bin. It works as expected. 

    Best
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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 30, 13 8:59 PM (permalink)
    Thanks Guys...

    They had the same results at Cakewalk... so I'm hunting for any others who are experiencing this...

    Both of these machines are a bit "unusual" as one is below min spec and the other is under bootcamp on a macpro...

    So I continue to search for any others who can corroborate...

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 30, 13 10:02 PM (permalink)
    Cloning a track here does NOT retain post FX bin setting on the cloned track.

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 30, 13 10:30 PM (permalink)
    d_in_conduct


    Cloning a track here does NOT retain post FX bin setting on the cloned track.

    X2a 64-bit on Win7-64 
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    AHA!
     
    Thanks d_in_conduct...
     
    So it's not just my machines... Is there anything unusual about your system? Which interface(s) do you use?
     
    Now I've got to (somehow) let the Bakers know... Hmmm... How do I send them a link to this message?
     
    I've never done that before...
     
    Here's hoping we get a few more and maybe we can get a handle on what we might have in common?
     
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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 30, 13 10:43 PM (permalink)
    Sorry Keni -
     
    Post FX sticks here too - - - Specs in sig.  :  )
     
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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 30, 13 11:05 PM (permalink)
    Stone House Studios


    Sorry Keni -
     
    Post FX sticks here too - - - Specs in sig.  :  )
     
    Brian


    Thanks Brian...

    Nothing to be sorry 'bout. I'm sure it works fine for the majority as they couldn't reproduce it at Cakewalk... So I'm just hunting for others in the hope that we uncover a common thread for this minority... ;-)

    Much Thanks for checking and reporting...

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 31, 13 7:46 AM (permalink)
    Keni - I opened a new project - inserted a track.  Set PC to Post and cloned it.  The new track retained the Post.  Turned off Post on track 2, cloned it, track 3 cloned as expected.  Went back to track 1 (with Post on) and cloned it.  The new track DIDN'T retain the post.  Cloned Track 1 again and the new track again DIDN'T retain the post status.

    So at first it appeared to work, but after cloning other tracks and going back to the original, it started mis-behaving.

    I remember having this issue in X1 also.  Since the advent of PC effects bins in X2, I always work to leave the post off so that I don't accidentally get tricked by this problem.

    I'm running Window7 64bit - i5 quad core processor.

    Keni - A little OT - have you ever tried running vmware Fusion 5 instead of bootcamp?  Supposed to work really well - can run Sonar within the Mac OS without losing any resources or processing power or memory.  Sounds interesting - I'm thinking of getting a Mac.
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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 31, 13 10:10 AM (permalink)
    Hi Keni,
    Confirmed here...happens every time. I insert an audio track, press the "post" button, clone the track and the post button is off on the new track.

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 31, 13 7:14 PM (permalink)
    Thanks Guys!

    It looks as tho we have uncovered something...

    Now to get The Bakers to look into it! I'll add a note to my problem report but it would sure help if everyone finding this reports it as well so t gets noticed for sure!

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 31, 13 7:22 PM (permalink)
    Even though I didn't experience it I think its an important find and it should be reported. 

    Keni did a good job in spotting this. I don't know if I would have noticed if it had happened to me. 

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue May 31, 13 7:54 PM (permalink)
    John


    Even though I didn't experience it I think its an important find and it should be reported. 

    Keni did a good job in spotting this. I don't know if I would have noticed if it had happened to me. 

    Hi John...
     
    Thanks, but sure you would notice it... things will typically sound very different changing the pre/post setting of this and as you already know what it should sound like before the cloning, you expect it to sound the same on the cloned track... It took very little investigation to find that the status was wrong and then realize how it happened (a few trial and error moves)...
     
    As they already closed my report as unable to reproduce, I just started another and included the CWBRN of the original... I also included a note for them to check this topic in the forum...
     
    Here's hoping they do so we can try to track this bugger down! ;-)
     
    Keni
     

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue June 01, 13 2:26 AM (permalink)
    Hi Keni.

    I've just tried this on one of my systems and the Post Fx sticks when cloning a track.

    Ill try it on my other machines later on and report back

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue June 01, 13 9:24 AM (permalink)
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    Hi Keni.

    I've just tried this on one of my systems and the Post Fx sticks when cloning a track.

    Ill try it on my other machines later on and report back


    Thanks for checking it Jonesey...

    Much appreciated...

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue June 01, 13 2:00 PM (permalink)
    I get the same results as guitartrek, if I turn off Post on a different track and go back to the original track and clone it again with Post still on, the Cloned track has Post turned off.

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue June 01, 13 2:22 PM (permalink)
    dke


    I get the same results as guitartrek, if I turn off Post on a different track and go back to the original track and clone it again with Post still on, the Cloned track has Post turned off.

    Dan


    Thanks Dan...

    We're starting to see something in common and repeatable now...(Tho here it always clones off/pre)

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue June 02, 13 7:19 PM (permalink)
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    dke


    I get the same results as guitartrek, if I turn off Post on a different track and go back to the original track and clone it again with Post still on, the Cloned track has Post turned off.

    Dan


    Thanks Dan...

    We're starting to see something in common and repeatable now...(Tho here it always clones off/pre) 

    Keni
    Could be related to some preference setting that is different on yours than mine as to why it always fails on yours, but with mine I have to go through a couple steps before it fails.  I bet if all the settings were the same on everyone's system the software would behave the same way.  I'm sure the settings are the same or similar on your two systems, because they are your personal preferences - and that's why you get consistent results with both your systems.  My settings are undoubtedly different than yours, as are other peoples settings.

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    Re:Bug Corroboration Needed - Clone Track Issue June 03, 13 12:17 AM (permalink)
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    Keni


    dke


    I get the same results as guitartrek, if I turn off Post on a different track and go back to the original track and clone it again with Post still on, the Cloned track has Post turned off.

    Dan


    Thanks Dan...

    We're starting to see something in common and repeatable now...(Tho here it always clones off/pre) 

    Keni
    Could be related to some preference setting that is different on yours than mine as to why it always fails on yours, but with mine I have to go through a couple steps before it fails.  I bet if all the settings were the same on everyone's system the software would behave the same way.  I'm sure the settings are the same or similar on your two systems, because they are your personal preferences - and that's why you get consistent results with both your systems.  My settings are undoubtedly different than yours, as are other peoples settings.


    Which settings do you think might be related? I can try changing such and see if it affects anything...

    Keni


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