X1 bailed my band out of the fire

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2013/06/17 23:13:45 (permalink)

X1 bailed my band out of the fire

I see a ton of negative threads (some for good reason) and some basic rants, so I thought I'd post a little Sonar X1 love and hopefully brighten the mood a little.
Let me start by saying that I play bass, a very little bit of guitar, and that's about it....
Last Friday my Bon Jovi tribute band was scheduled to play a club over on Nantucket island, but at the last minute (the day before the gig) our keyboardist had some kind of troubles and had to cancel. We were in quite a pickle.  We made a few calls out to the sub players that we work with but none were available and we were basically screwed.
Then I had a wonderfully crazy idea.......My quick, totally hack, omg what are we gonna do, solution?
Fortunatly I'm one of those "run tape" guys that record most of our practices, and had saved all of the songs that we play in multitrack format.
So the night before we left, I went through the set list and found out which songs started with the keyboards or had parts where the keyboard was the driving part of the song (Ie: Runaway, Never Say Goodbye, Bad Medicine, Van Halen Jump etc..)
I cut the previously recorded keyboard tracks up song by song, fired up session drummer 3, and assigned each keyboard part to seperate drums (yes I'm sure there was a better sampler that I could have used, but I'm not a keys guy and honestly I haven't used the others)
I installed X1 (no time for updates) on a laptop, copied over the files, installed the drivers for my scarlet 2I2, installed the drivers for my cute little korg nano keyboard controller, and what do you know!! I pressed a key on the controller and the keyboards tracks played. Praise be the God of your own choosing!!
Now all that was left was to print little lables with the song names and tape them to the controller, so I knew which key would trigger what keyboard sample.
I took the the computer setup to the gig and got ready to see if this little experiment would actually pan out. My band mates were a little sceptical at first to say the least, This was a rush job and I don't play keyboards!!
However we tried a few songs at sound check and it actually worked, smoothly I might add.
Was it pretty? Nope! Did it get us through the gig? YES!!!! Not to bad for a "finish this setup mess up at 3am, leave to get on the boat for the gig on the island at 6am, under the gun, is this gonna actually work?" solution.
So...to make a long story short... lots of love on this end for Sonar.
 
 
post edited by bandso - 2013/06/18 21:47:51

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    robert_e_bone
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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/17 23:58:14 (permalink)
    Hey, great news.
     
    If you ever get stuck like that again, send me a private message.  I have played keyboards (and some guitar) for 48 of my 53 years, and I have a ready to go full keyboard rig, as well as a great vocal mic and my own powered PA speakers (twin 450-watt).
     
    I've been in a million bands, and would be happy to help, if needed.  I live in Maryland, but spent 2 years in Boston and would road trip in a second.
     
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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 01:36:03 (permalink)
    Love it when a hack comes together....
     
    Now then! I assume this gig was at THE MUSE 

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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 08:31:34 (permalink)
    love that story

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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 09:20:11 (permalink)
    Good to hear.  Well done - talk about working under pressure..

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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 09:29:03 (permalink)
    @Robert: Thank you for your generous offer! I'll keep you in mind.
     
    @Sharke: Yes it was indeed at the Muse. What a fantastic lighting system (and sound) that place has. They treated us very well and we stayed in their "band house". That saved us a good bit of $$$ as we did not need to get hotel rooms. I'm sure we will be playing there again near the end of the season. It was a total working vacation once we did the first night and everything went well with the backing keyboard tracks. Just a beautiful island get away.
     
    Shameless plug here, in case anyone is interested we recorded our booking demo with X1 in my humble little studio. (I really should put this link in my signature)  I dont plug cover tunes often, so I hope I don't get a ton of flack for posting the link here and not in the song forum. (there is a good video of us opening up for the band Fuel last summer on the site as well) 
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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 09:47:49 (permalink)
    Great story, John! Congrats on the successful gig.
     
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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 09:55:55 (permalink)
    Good work, they are lucky they had a techno guy as a bass player, That job used to go to the keyboard player :} 
     
    We had a drummer who was holding us ransom all the time and cancelling out, so the guitar player bought a drum machine. The drummer seemed to magically change his attitude after we successfully played a few gigs without him. But it is a lot of extra ( unappreciated) work for the person who takes on the task of programming it all.  I hope they gave you the keyboard players cut!

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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 10:42:01 (permalink)
    Cactus Music
     I hope they gave you the keyboard players cut!



    I like your style..

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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 15:06:15 (permalink)
    Ha!! I didn't even think to ask about getting a larger share of the take. Music is a labor of love for me and all I was thinking was the show must go on!  Too funny!

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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 15:33:47 (permalink)
    Umm. So what sampler should I really have used for this little project? I'm sure session drummer wouldn't have been a real keyboardist weapon of choice if placed in a similar predicament .

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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 18:15:58 (permalink)
    Quote: My band mates were a little sceptical at first to say the least.
     
    Arent they always?
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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 20:01:38 (permalink)
    I wish to disagree with the OP. He is wrong. It wasn't Sonar that bailed out his band it was him. We can think that the tools we use are the reason we are doing a good job but in truth it is our skill. 

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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 20:14:00 (permalink)
    I'm with John on this, 100%: it was you who saved the gig.  It does, however,  help to have the right tool for the right job, as my father used to hammer into me..
     
    With a hammer, oddly enough, but at least I knew it was the right one for the job..

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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 21:45:07 (permalink)
    Thank you all for the kind kudos. I really wasn't trying to stroke my own ego. I just wanted other members that may be having difficulties or learning pains to keep their spirits up. Sonar is indeed a very powerful tool that can be used in many creative ways that may be out of the norm. Though I will admit, evidently I've been very lucky as all of the versions have been very stable for me.

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    Re: X1 bailed my band out of the fire 2013/06/18 22:01:43 (permalink)
    bandso
    Umm. So what sampler should I really have used for this little project? I'm sure session drummer wouldn't have been a real keyboardist weapon of choice if placed in a similar predicament .


    I've used Cyclone for this kind of thing in the past.  But if Session Drummer works then I wouldn't say it's the wrong tool at all.
     
    I agree with previous posts though.  YOU made it work, not Sonar.  You shoulda got the keyboard player's cut!
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