jeremiah0230
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Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
Can you get a good mix mixing with headphones? Have you ever done it or know someone that has got a good mix doing it? Please advise..
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/21 14:11:21
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/21 14:22:34
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I have akg k-44 and it doesnt give me a good mix. Try getting a better one. I like the sennheiser hd380 pro.
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/22 13:40:41
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I don't think you can. You might get an ok mix, but without hearing the playback on speakers in a room, its never quite right.
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/22 14:31:02
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Headphones are great for checking mixes, not mixing the mixes. I use AKG K-240 for checking my mixes. I also use a variety of different studio monitors/speakers.
To get your mixes to translate the best, you need to mix them in a room that is tuned and the person mixing it needs their ears to be trained to that room. Or you will never hear the true sound. If you cannot hear the true sound, then how could your mixes translate? Exactly!
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/22 15:52:11
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If you're just making music for yourself they're probably fine. That's all I do and I have to use headphones because of where I live.
My mixes have always turned out good. I mix with phones and listen to the results with them. The only place I use speakers is in the car and they have always sounded good there too. I'm sure they could be better but so far I'm the only one listening to the mush so it's no big deal for me.
Either way I think it's more in training your ears what to listen for. If you're doing it for other people then you want to use monitors. But monitors are only as good as the room they're in.
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/22 16:18:30
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Get a VRM Box as well....drastically improves the mix you can make on headphones.
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/22 16:39:22
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/22 17:04:24
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You definitely need to hear your songs on several different speakers before printing. And in mono too of course.
I find I can do the lion's share of work with the cans tho. (Sennheiser 280 pros)
There's tons of recording and editing to do before you need to tweak those final balances.
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/22 17:15:09
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The mixes I've been happiest with I've done on near-fields (no subs) and checked back and forth on headphones. Audio Technica ATH M50 and K240 Studio.
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/22 17:50:30
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/22 18:57:43
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Don, I agree on the nearfields (KRK 6's here) but surprised at the specific mention of no subs?
My mixes end up too bassy without it. (IMO)
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Re: Mixing with K-44 AKG Headphones
2013/06/22 20:40:39
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Hey Glenn, The rooms where I had my sub were just too small with bad proportions and placement was tricky...I guess it usually is. The bass and sub bass was a mess. At one point I moved to a location where I had to ditch the sub. I pretty much used the headphones to check the bass as it took the room, peaks and nulls in the bass out of the picture. For me that ended up being much more beneficial. In know a little more about location now and haven't tried it in a while, so I may get better results now. Donny sharke
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I was all hepped to get one but the ending disclaimer on Focusrite's video squelched the deal for me. What a rip!   Actually it sounds like a cool idea but again it's gonna be colored by which phones you're using. Still, you could use it for just listening or even plug your TV into it. Hmmm...
The blurb states that its only effective with good quality headphones, ie cans with a reasonably flat response. Of course the headphones used are going to color it, but any speaker that you use is going to influence your mix decisions too. The idea of the VRM box is that it allows you to hear your mix across a wide range of speaker types. In that respect, it may even be more useful than just using one pair of monitors.
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