Randy P
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New biz website
Take a look when you get a chance folks. I don't have all my inventory up yet, but there are a few for testing. Also, for some of my wackier friends here, I know it will be tempting to do an application. Please don't. I have to track those, and it'll kind of screw stuff up. Let me know what you think, and thanks in advance. http://riverbankauto.com/ Randy
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UbiquitousBubba
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 10:58:37
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I think the site looks great. It's easy to use, conveys a consistent message, and it looks very appealing. I might joke about such things, but I would never apply as a prank. You don't mess with somebody's business. Also, I'd be too worried that I might be hired. If that happened, I might have to deliver results. I don't really see that happening.
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Randy P
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 11:04:14
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UbiquitousBubba I think the site looks great. It's easy to use, conveys a consistent message, and it looks very appealing. I might joke about such things, but I would never apply as a prank. You don't mess with somebody's business. Also, I'd be too worried that I might be hired. If that happened, I might have to deliver results. I don't really see that happening.
Thanks Bubba, I'd hire you in a second, if for nothing more than the amusement value. I don't see me paying you much, but oh, the fun would far outweigh any monetary needs you might have.
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 11:05:54
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Site looks great. No "car fax" offered? No mileage mentioned on a few? Good photos too. Off to a great start IMO.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 11:17:27
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I had an urge to see the mileage. On the main inventory page where all the cars are listed I would enjoy a taller line break in between listings as it seems crowded. I liked the clean look of the individual car listings. Good luck! best regards, mike
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Randy P
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 11:27:36
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spacey Site looks great. No "car fax" offered? No mileage mentioned on a few? Good photos too. Off to a great start IMO.
Thanks Michael, No carfax offered indeed. One of the biggest scams going is the carfax. They are being sued in a large class action suit here in the northeast. It's mostly geared at the advertising they use. Just think about it, and line it up with any business you want to think of. Scenario: Your company Widgetworld sells blue widgets. Widgetfax comes along and starts advertising that they have all the info, good and bad about every blue widget. You should never buy a blue widget until you make Widgetworld pay Widgetfax $40.00 for the info they supposedly have. That's on each and every blue widget. Widgetfax even states that any "reputable" seller of blue widgets will be glad to do this, and if they won't, they are obviously hiding something. Here is my policy on Carfax. If a customer is interested in one of my vehicles, and asks for a Carfax, I will gladly give them all the information they would need to purchase the report. If the vehicle has any history of salvage, flood damage, mileage discrepancy, etc., I will pay them back in cash for the Carfax. They can also have any vehicle they are interested in checked out by a mechanic of their choice. I'll even take it there for them at no charge. Randy
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 11:39:23
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Good to know should I ever buy a used vehicle. The only one I've bought in many years was from a friend. (a one owner truck) See/hear it mentioned a lot.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 12:43:27
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"One of the biggest scams going is the carfax." Is the carfax info inaccurate? Is accurate info not worth $40? Does the expense of the $40 (for accurate info) have a threshold of practical value? Is 01% of a 4k car too much? Is 0.05% of a 8k car too much? When does a $40 investment pay off even if it just a confirmation of good news? Is it possible that some may simply regard accurate info as impertinent or irrelevant? How much does a $40 increase in overhead turn into at Street price? Can the increase in street price provide value to customers who use the info to anticipate future and near term maintenance and repair expenses? IMO, if it is the case that the info is accurate I would personally find value in getting a chance to choose between a car that was never crashed and enjoyed frequent oil changes and some other car that was never crashed but didn't get fresh oil very often. Another example; Learning if the timing belt/chain was or wasn't RnR'd on schedule will enable some one to predict a total cost of ownership much more accurately. If accurate info is available and a dealer elects not to invest in that info then it seems like the pricing will end up reflecting a decision to manage the risk in the absence of pertinent info. I'm curious to know if the service has been shown to be inaccurate or perhaps incomplete. I've always wondered how it could be complete with so many of the higher quality mechanics seeming to be offline. I get the impression that I am not your market segment and I suppose you know your market well... so I imagine that my perspective may not be pertinent to your business. I had some misgiving about the generalized statement that Carfax is a "scam". I've personally thought of it as a fair priced service in the past and I'd be curious to know if your opinion is a matter of perspective as a margin measured, sales based business or if it is from some knowledge that the information is of poor or erroneous quality. best regards, mike edit spelling
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Randy P
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 12:55:09
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I have several issues with them. First is the advertising they do. As you said, many mechanics are offline, and don't report to carfax. There is no way to know if the vehicle was regularly serviced, i.e. owner did his own oil changes, had his buddy do the timing belt, etc. This lack of reporting could lead a carfax viewer the vehicle was not properly maintained. As for incomplete info, if you get into a minor accident with your car, and take it to a local shop to have it repaired, there is no way for carfax to know unless the shop reports it. On the other hand, if they do report it and it was a minor fender scrape with a minimal cost to repair, and no structural damage to the vehicle, carfax doesn't give any other info other than it was in an accident. It could be a quality repair, and the vehicle could be fine, with many years of reliable service ahead, but the carfax would lead a viewer to thing otherwise.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 13:06:34
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Thank you Randy. Best wishes to your endeavor. mike
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 13:23:12
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Good job! I'll have to agree with Mike that the listings look a bit bunched up making the price of the car above sometimes look like it belongs to the car below and I'm see a lot of framed "white space" on the right side (i.e., an area you expect to be seen - not due to the fact that I'm viewing the website on a larger monitor). Maybe the price can go on the right side and "Details" could move over a little? Here's what I see on my monitor. The blue areas are obviously stretching for my higher resolution, but the white area to the right of "Details" should be available for use. Notice how the "Cash Price" sits a little below the bottom of the picture. This is what makes it difficult to tell which vehicle it belongs to. Just my $0.02! (And I probably should get change.  ) I also like how the "About Us" page shows pictures of all your backyard improvements too. (Q: What did people do before Carfax? A: Saved $40)
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Randy P
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 13:54:05
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I've got my website guy working to put a border between each vehicle. Thanks for the suggestions guys. Randy
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 14:14:30
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My first thought was - really ?? Has America really not learned about giving credit to the wrong people ?? That aside, As others have mentioned the spacing could be better and as cars 3&4 look much the same, as do 5&6, might be an idea to split them apart or at least vary the pics a little. Change of background, different angle something like that. Not easy to make it look like you have a varied selection with so few cars, but having very similar ones right next to each other isn't helping IMHO.
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KenB123
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 14:33:53
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The site looks great! Only thing I might consider experimenting with is to make the text a bit larger. This is mainly targeted for the Home page, and I am referring to the detail text under each section. Could also apply to the car detail text in the inventory page. The text looks great, but I found myself straining just a bit (or moving in closer) to read it. Just something to consider for those us not quite with younger eyes anymore.
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 16:27:48
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I agree on the carfax stuff. My daughter's car was in an accident and there was a fair amount of body damage. Nothing structural, but the repairs to the front, side and rear panels was in excess of $5k. Almost to the total percentage. The car was repaired to like new condition by a reputable shop. Someone seeing that on a carfax would likely walk on past the car when there is nothing wrong with it. And totally agree on maintenance. People who do it themselves or with good quality shops that are not on line and reporting service.... as a shop that I use does not..... the car would show up as not serviced according to mfg's recommendations...... Site looks good Randy. Best wishes to you.
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paulo
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 16:38:49
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Guitarhacker I agree on the carfax stuff. My daughter's car was in an accident and there was a fair amount of body damage. Nothing structural, but the repairs to the front, side and rear panels was in excess of $5k. Almost to the total percentage. The car was repaired to like new condition by a reputable shop. Someone seeing that on a carfax would likely walk on past the car when there is nothing wrong with it.
I know nothing about carfax, but if was loooking at any car that had been accident damaged to a degree that the repair costs equalled the value of the car , I would want to walk away from it.
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KenB123
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 16:58:45
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rsp@odyssey.net As for incomplete info, if you get into a minor accident with your car, and take it to a local shop to have it repaired, there is no way for carfax to know unless the shop reports it. On the other hand, if they do report it and it was a minor fender scrape with a minimal cost to repair, and no structural damage to the vehicle, carfax doesn't give any other info other than it was in an accident. It could be a quality repair, and the vehicle could be fine, with many years of reliable service ahead, but the carfax would lead a viewer to thing otherwise.
This happened to us last year when we went to trade-in my wife's car at a dealer for purchase of a brand new car. Prior, she had side-swiped the driver side mirror while going through a Walgreens drive-thru with some advertisement sign they had displayed. This happened on the trade-in vehicle and the only damage to the car was the mirror. Being the car was only a year old at the time, she decided to have it fixed and took it to the dealer for the repair service. Last year in the process of negotiation for a new car with the trade-in, the dealer came back indicating the trade-in vehicle was involved in an accident and used it as a negotiation advantage on the trade-in value. We were initially taken aback wondering when she was involved in an accident. All we could recall was the damaged mirror. We asked if the report indicated what the accident involved, but there was no information. Only that a repair to the car was done. We couldn't believe this type of repair 'qualified' as being a reportable accident incident. Ultimately it cost us cash value in the trade-in negotiations.
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Re: New biz website
2013/06/28 17:01:54
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After Hurricane Katrina, a lot of the swamped cars from New Orleans showed up on dishonest lots down here. These flood damaged cars all had clean carfaxes, it was a big news story. Some dealer, very near to where I lived at the time, was brought up on fraud charges. Carfax is not accurate. @ Randy, Your site is not mobile best practices. Google will rank you lower, even in your local area. Research it...
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