I'm looking for a particular EQ...

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2013/07/02 15:22:09 (permalink)

I'm looking for a particular EQ...

Not too sure where to post this, figured I'd have the better chance in here, since it's the busiest section... so, I'm searching for an EQ plug-in that allows you to bring your whole curve up or down once you're done adjusting your parameters. Anyone knows of such an EQ?
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    scook
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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/02 15:27:44 (permalink)
    You can lasso the nodes in the Sonitus EQ and change them as a group
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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/02 15:31:34 (permalink)
    DMG Audio EQuality.  http://dmgaudio.com/products_equality.php
     
    And this isn't a sales pitch, exactly, but the plug-in does what you're asking and then some. It's just what I use. I'm thoroughly impressed with them.

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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/02 15:44:01 (permalink)
    Photosounder Spline EQ, has that function, but that's an " linear phase equalizer ", so it uses a lot of CPU.
    there's an free version with 3 nodes, and a cheap full version.
    http://photosounder.com/splineeq/
    This EQ is best used on the Master BUS, due to it's heavy CPU load

    For another EQ:
    If you do not have a EQ with a Gain output, and want to raise the lvl:
    Why not use the Sonalksis Free G, after the EQ.
    http://www.sonalksis.com/freeg.htm


    post edited by Soundblend - 2013/07/02 15:58:47
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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/02 15:48:28 (permalink)
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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/02 16:29:46 (permalink)
    Why not just increase the gain before or after the EQ?

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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/02 16:41:08 (permalink)
    @scook right, but that's not really what I'm looking for... this will change the properties of my curve as I move all the nodes up or down, it doesn't keep the overall curve. also no way to keep horizontal position locked in...
     
    @sharke the way I would like to do it, is use eq boosting at first to shape my tones, then once that's done, bring the overall curve down so my highest point is equal to neutral and then raise track volume, as all eqs are considerably better at cutting than boosting. would be more convenient that way, I believe, than trying to do my curve by cutting only.
     
    gonna try the demos of some of these suggestions, cheers lads.
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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/02 17:39:20 (permalink)
    This isn't a bad way of working, but better would be to listen to what frequencies are cluttering up or muddying the tones you want, then cut them. I think your way is fine, but you may be making some very minute decisions based on boost, rather than cut, which may skew your result a bit. Trust me, I have a very hard time trying to do this the "right" way, but I'm getting better at it. 

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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/02 19:19:39 (permalink)
    brconflict
    DMG Audio EQuality.  http://dmgaudio.com/products_equality.php
     
    And this isn't a sales pitch, exactly, but the plug-in does what you're asking and then some. It's just what I use. I'm thoroughly impressed with them.


    +1 for DMG Eq's.

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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/02 21:10:59 (permalink)
    brconflict
    This isn't a bad way of working, but better would be to listen to what frequencies are cluttering up or muddying the tones you want, then cut them. I think your way is fine, but you may be making some very minute decisions based on boost, rather than cut, which may skew your result a bit. Trust me, I have a very hard time trying to do this the "right" way, but I'm getting better at it. 



    I see what you mean, but I'm looking at this from a synthesis / sound design standpoint more than mixing. I'm quite fine with the prochannel eq for my track eq needs usually.
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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/03 00:29:21 (permalink)
    What you're describing is basically a gain control within the eq, but with differences. The eq would have to intelligently re-map a new set of filters to do that. For example a simple high shelf boost of 3dB brought down 1dB would intelligently need to convert that to a 1dB low shelf cut with a 2dB high shelf gain. The thing is, you might not be able to recreate the same opposite curve exactly with more complex filters, but I may be wrong. I do get what you're asking, but I can't imagine many designers going through the effort of doing that. It is an interesting concept. My guess is anything out there would simply just use a gain change instead of an intelligent algorithm (which probably wouldn't actually be too hard to engineer) which defeats the whole purpose of cutting only. It really complicates the eq design.

    I wonder though. A simple peak at 1khz uses one filter. To invert that, you'd now need TWO filters to achieve the same result. Do the total artifacts add up to be the same in the end or even worse? I'm curious.

    I must do some cut vs boost experiments...


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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/03 00:29:22 (permalink)
    What you're describing is basically a gain control within the eq, but with differences. The eq would have to intelligently re-map a new set of filters to do that. For example a simple high shelf boost of 3dB brought down 1dB would intelligently need to convert that to a 1dB low shelf cut with a 2dB high shelf gain. The thing is, you might not be able to recreate the same opposite curve exactly with more complex filters, but I may be wrong. I do get what you're asking, but I can't imagine many designers going through the effort of doing that. It is an interesting concept. My guess is anything out there would simply just use a gain change instead of an intelligent algorithm (which probably wouldn't actually be too hard to engineer) which defeats the whole purpose of cutting only. It really complicates the eq design.

    I wonder though. A simple peak at 1khz uses one filter. To invert that, you'd now need TWO filters to achieve the same result. Do the total artifacts add up to be the same in the end or even worse? I'm curious.

    I must do some cut vs boost experiments...


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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/03 01:49:59 (permalink)
    Although its not what you are looking for you may want to try GlissEQ from Voxengo. 

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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/03 02:02:12 (permalink)
    There is a free plugin set from ReaPlugs 
     
    http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/
     
    the function you mentioned is within ReaFir it is not in the default ReaEQ. From within ReaFir, select from the MODE SECTION.
     
    You can double click on the curve to add points and when done you may hold "CTRL" to move the entire curve up or down.
     
    hope this helps... cheers!!!
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    Re: I'm looking for a particular EQ... 2013/07/03 02:29:21 (permalink)
    Yes but that will simply be a gain change, not reconstructing the filters to create an identical response. Different process. Wether the sound is any different between the two is another matter. But in some eqs it may well be - especially in ones modeling analogue.


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