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2013/07/03 16:42:34 (permalink)

When you forget to turn on your interface first...

When you forget to turn on your interface first and then launch Sonar and get the message box "There are no audio devices for the current driver model..." do you
 
1. Shutdown Sonar, Start your interface and re-launch sonar
2. Turn on your interface and wait for it to be recognized "Do you want Sonar to Add this Device Now?"
 
I always close the app and restart, but I was curious for your answers. Or is there some faster way?

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/03 16:46:20 (permalink)
    either way works. usually, I do 2 with my current interface.
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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/03 18:11:56 (permalink)
    I go with option #1: start over. It may just be a quirk of the driver, but with my particular interface, letting SONAR detect and add it often causes the buffer size, clock source and channel names to revert to default values. It's less of a hassle to just exit SONAR and restart it.


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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/03 18:26:00 (permalink)
    Not sure. My Layla 24 hasn't been turned off for 7 years.
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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/03 18:46:47 (permalink)
    I get this warning when I open two apps trying to use the ASIO driver.
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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/03 21:11:04 (permalink)
    Close Sonar, turn on interface, re-open Sonar.
    Then I have to go into prefs and reassign my 1884 control surface settings; PITA.
    Wish Sonar would ask if you want to close without any changes.
     
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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/04 03:16:44 (permalink)
    soundtweaker,
     
    What is the advantage of leaving your interface on? For me, it would be a considerable waste of power when not in use. My interface is physically warm when simply powered on. I know some tube devices like to run warm, but a modern interface?

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/04 03:50:35 (permalink)
    Option 1 for me just so I feel I have a 'Clean' start up.

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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/04 03:59:41 (permalink)
    Option 1. However I don't forget very often.  Thank goodness. 
     
     
     
    Then I look around the room and make sure no one is there and then pretend I didn't do that!

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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/04 08:08:35 (permalink)
    Option 1.

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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/04 09:29:33 (permalink)
    I always go with option 2. When that eventually fails me, I'll start using option 1.
     
    It usually takes me a while to load a project so option 2 saves me time without sacrificing stability on my system.

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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/04 12:05:33 (permalink)
    Layla 3G here. If the computer is on the interface is on, if the computer is off the interface is off...doesn't get more idiot-proof than that ;)
     
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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/04 12:09:10 (permalink)
    John
    Option 1. However I don't forget very often.  Thank goodness.    Then I look around the room and make sure no one is there and then pretend I didn't do that!

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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/04 12:57:06 (permalink)
    That doesn't happen because I keep the Scarlett's adapter plugged into the power bar. When I start up I...
     
    Turn on the circuit protection power bar (Belkin) which has my computer, interface, flat panel and reference monitors plugged into (I should get a second one for the screen and the monitors and use a different outlet but it doesn't seem to cause any problems). I leave my screen turned on so I start it turns on and I get the No Input screen saver bouncing around the screen.
     
    I wait a few seconds to make sure the computer and interface are receiving power. 
     
    Turn on the PSU switch on the back of the computer.
     
    Walk away and do something else for a minute to let the PSU do whatever it is it does and I can see the lights on the MOBO are on.
     
    Then I boot up, log into the system and wait a few minutes so Windows can do its thing and all the drivers are ready to go. Because I installed ASUS Suite but have it disabled in the startup programs I have to wait for it to fail then close the warning. Then I wait for MSE to tell me it's out of date (because I keep the DAW offline) and close those warnings. Sometimes windows update takes a while to throw its warnings so I just do whatever else I want to do and close those warnings when and if they eventually pop up. I haven't updated windows for a while but some updates got downloaded a few months so that's why that happens. Now I have windows set to manual updates. I should really get the system up to date though because I haven't seen any complaints for a while.
     
    If I'm going to use one of my controllers I plug them in and turn them on and wait a couple minutes for the drivers to do their thing and I can see that they are being detected with the little MIDI icon in the taskbar.
     
    If I'm going to use my monitors (which I rarely do anymore) I make sure the monitor level knob on the Scarlett is turned down (as well as the headphone level knob) and flip the switches on the back of the speakers.
     
    Then and only then do I start Sonar.
     
    After I'm done whatever I'm doing I turn down the monitor and headphone knobs on the Scarlett and close Sonar.
     
    Then I turn off the switches on the monitors.
     
    Then I wait a couple minutes and turn off any controllers I've got hooked up and running.
     
    Then I wait another couple minutes to make sure the drivers of the controllers have had time to shut down properly.
     
    Then I shut down the computer via the Start menu (not the computer's start/power button).
     
    I wait a few minutes (sometimes longer) until I see that the power button on the MOBO is the only light still glowing.
     
    Then I turn off the PSU switch on the back of the computer and wait another few minutes.
     
    Then I turn off the power bar.
     
    May seem crazy, obsessive or time consuming but I've gotten into this routine because of various encounters with controllers not responding properly, projects going weird, unhealthy noises through the speakers/headphones, windows being weird, etc when I've rushed through things in some way or another. This way if something goes all funky I know it wasn't because I forced the system to do something it was quite ready for yet.
     
    However to answer the original question if I WERE to use a power button or whatever on an interface I would definitely make sure the interface was on before launching Sonar. Much better if windows is detecting it and it's ready to go rather than making Sonar do somersaults after the fact. That's why I turn on controllers before launching Sonar as well. Don't even give it a chance to screw up.
     
    In fact I have far fewer and much shorter white screens on launching the app than I used to before I went all captain anal about this stuff. I figure it protects all the circuitry and other stuff too and might prevent weird registry stuff from happening.
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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/04 15:50:58 (permalink)
    Beepster, I'm 0 to working much faster.
     
    I lift the lid, flip on the interface and launch Sonar. In most cases, I'm working in a matter of seconds. For me, bouncing Sonar after launching without the interface on only adds a second or two.
     
    I don't get 'white screens'. Using the RME instead of M-Audio, I no longer get system crashes when the computer sleeps before the device is turned off. The RME Drivers do not cause this problem.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: When you forget to turn on your interface first... 2013/07/04 16:47:44 (permalink)
    If I had to - it would be option 1.
     
    But this is impossible with my power up scheme

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