The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom

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2013/07/07 07:58:35 (permalink)

The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom

I am curious if I am the only one here who has the I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom. I noticed over the last few weeks, if not months, I am mainly looking at the latest greatest plugin (in my case usually instruments), checking them all out, reading about them, asking about them and hardly buying any... and when I do buy it, I fool around with it, I say to myself: 'yes, great plugin'... and instead of actually making music with it, I start looking at the next plugin...
 
It's very tiresome...
 
I think I simply have a writers block but because I do want to be connected to the music making business I have no other option then to check out the next best plugin, hoping it will let my creativity flow... which seldom happens.
 
My last two purchases were EZKeys (because I was making backing tracks for someone who wanted a lot of piano in it: in the end I found out 9 of the 10 included patterns don't translate very well to other chord schemes... I don't even have the plugin installed anymore: anyone interested? And the guy who needed those backing tracks changed his genre to EDM) and (not exactly a plugin) Sonar X2 Producer (because I liked the new interface about which I saw a lot of YouTube movies and I was very excited about the Pro Channel and getting into that very like a real pro: after installing it I thought 'the interface is indeed nice... but I still can't write lyrics, and the subtleties of the Pro Channel effects are totally wasted on me: I can't even hear the difference between them or the good old Sonitus effects...).
 
I am such a loser. So now I am looking at a new bass (Orange Tree Rick!) and guitar (Ample Guitar T) while I already have Scarbee Pre-Bass of which I have yet to use one of the articulations in a tune of mine (up to know I only played it like I would play a Dim Pro bass preset) and MusicLab's RealGuitar (which I mainly used for rhythm and fingerpicking backgrounds for which it is great: I never wrote a 'real' guitarpiece for it... so why the heck should I get that Rick and T anyway?!?
 
As I said, it's very tiresome...
 
Anyone else here who knows what I am talking about?

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    gswitz
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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/07 08:19:10 (permalink)
    +1
     
    But I do find I go from flooded with work to the point that I resent it to not really doing anything for weeks.
     
    I find scheduling in a little time, like a kid's practice schedule, often helps. And turning off the gear and taking my acoustic to a park is a nice summer time activity too.
     
    The Producer Content Club does provide a little relief from the syndrome by giving new toys periodically.
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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/07 08:37:23 (permalink)
    For the last couple of years I was like you, but I finally stopped doing it (luckily I'm satisfied with what I have.....mostly). There are many plugins/samples I ended up not using at all (ManyGuitar, BFD Eco, Sampletekk Black Grand, etc.) or I haven't really used although I really want to (OrangeTree Cherry Bass, Steven Slate Drums 4, etc.).
     
    Oh, I shouldn't spend my precious time on posting....gotta create music.

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/07 10:08:40 (permalink)
    Is called GAS...Gear Acquisition Syndrome...and a frustrating one at that..

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/07 10:46:50 (permalink)
    Hi ,I totally agree with hellogoodbye,this is the reason to hope that Cake develop more Pro Channel modules couse i have all to compose,record and master my prj........maybe some other perticular effects like Soundtoys.
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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/07 11:29:27 (permalink)
    OP: Yep I know exactly what you are saying...
     
    ...Which is why I have resolved that for the next two (count 'em!) years I'm going to focus on learning what I already have. Starting with Reaktor.
     
    Good luck to you though, we're both gonna need it. 
     
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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/07 13:03:01 (permalink)
    I have found that acquiring a new VSTi usually results in at least one new song. Because I'll sit at the keyboard and try all of the presets and something catches my ear and before you know it I'm putting a little riff down in a project. Even if I just leave it like that for weeks, I know I'll come back and work on it eventually. I have lots of little ideas kicking around from playing with new synths etc.

    But usually, the reality of the new plug/instrument is a lot less than how it seemed it would be in your mind. I have Jamstix Aquisition Syndrome (JAS) at the minute because I'm convinced that jamming along with it will make be a better guitar player and also transform all the drums on all of my tracks, which naturally I'm going to find the time to go back to and rework. In reality, I know that if I buy it, it will take me weeks before I can be bothered to read the manual.

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/07 16:53:47 (permalink)
    Though not cured of my affliction, I am on a maintenance program wherein I buy a cheap (<=$50) Kontakt library each month. This keeps the cravings at bay and as Sharke noted, often does inspire a song or two. Having Kontakt is like having a prescription for methadone.
     
    Should I suddenly get the shakes of withdrawal mid-month, I can usually tame them by creating a new patch in Omnisphere. That, too, is often a catalyst for a new song, and costs nothing.
     
    Lest I sound too sanctimonious by implying that I've beaten the disease, I must confess that this week will see a new Zebra added to my stable. Then, the Rick.


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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/07 18:36:35 (permalink)
    I love getting new plugins. I've gotten to where i will demo it first to make sure ill like it and use it but it's inspiring to get a new toy! Thats why i get up and go to work everyday!

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/07 18:53:36 (permalink)
    I'm more into processing plug-ins, but I know the feeling well.
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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/07 19:00:00 (permalink)
    i went into rehab, kicked the habit, found heroin easier to come off ;p
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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/08 03:19:54 (permalink)
    Yeah I usually have a thirst for new toys, and spent who knows how much of my life hunting for good free plug-ins and debating which commercial plugs I should purchase, but lately I decided to make a custom layout for my effects and instruments. My default layout was getting a bit hectic. And for cause: I have a fully decked out list of minimum 10 plug-ins in each of my 15 fx categories and 3 instrument categories. All very good stuff, no junk. This has allowed me to put things in perspective and made it really easy to tell myself "do I really need that? no I don't I have a whole bunch of that already" and my need for new plugins is really under control now and, incidentally, I have been making more music than ever recently.
     
    Samples envy is a whole other ordeal though. In this era of counting disk space in terabytes, there is very little to stop that.
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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/08 07:48:54 (permalink)
    LOL Nice posts. Glad I am not the only one... 

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/08 08:05:42 (permalink)
    yeah, know it. been there ... but it's gotten better lately ...
     
    what helped the most was getting back to the roots i.e. more music with fewer toys ;-) real musicians are way more inspiring than the nicest looking GUI or the coolest new preset. while i certainly agree that a new plug usually results in a new song, i see a multitude of that when getting together with inspiring people ...
     
     

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/08 08:20:56 (permalink)
    Here's what I have discovered.
     
    Cake comes with a variety of synths, most notably the Cakewalk Sound Center. Cake includes quite a few sounds and then sells additional sound packs for $20 each. They also include some additional synths in some of the new versions of Sonar and Cake products......bass, drums, etc....
     
    These all have a very reasonable sound, quite useable for 95% of the applications I would use them in. 
     
    If you buy some of the 3rd party synths and samplers, pianos, bass guitar, guitar, etc..... most the the ones in the "affordable" price range are the same quality as the ones Cake gives you for free or in the packs for $20.
     
    Next step up: Native instruments also has some very nice and superb sounding sample libraries. I consider them a step above the Cakewalk $20 sound packs and really not that much of a step up IMHO. Worth the price since the Komplete Collection is definitely a "must have" for anyone using synths and samples.
     
    To Infinity and beyond:  Once you step out and spend the upper  3 digit range and into the 4 digit range $1000+....NOW you're getting into the sounds that will knock your proverbial socks off. These tend to be the samples that even a player can't tell the difference .... is is a synth sample or is it a real string section?...... However, unless scoring film is your livelihood, and it provides a regular paycheck to you, using those libraries is generally not in the interest or financial reach of the average hobbyist.
     
    I had the typical case of GAS for a time..... I have a bunch of VST's & FX that I rarely use as a result. Some free, some not.
     
    Just my random thoughts on this topic of G.A.S.

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/08 10:36:13 (permalink)
    I went to a Store this weekend - brick and mortar, a real store and was looking at the used gear - real physical gear.
     
    They had a nice Vox amp with built-in effects and I started getting googely eyes - then I thought - wait I just picked up IK Amplitube Slash and haven't played with that, and Orange and Metal are on sale - I could for $60 buy those.  yea.....
     
    walked around and found a Line6 POD HD used really great price so I asked the guy if it came with the software reg'd or not - he didn't know.  Gewd knows I couldn't just have the POD, had to have the software.
     
    Then I saw a Proteus 2000 oh my gewd I saved up for one of those way back in the day and never got it.....I could.....wait....Digital Sound Factory has all the Proteus line for $99 - why buy this one box when I could have them ALL!!......
     
    Then the Roland Fantom eyed me and I thought....hmmmm naaaa I really need to go to Groove3.com and watch that Omnisphere tutorial and real that before buying another keyboard.  plus where would I put it on my desk - I could go buy another virtual.......
     
    I didn't buy anything.  Got home and looked things over.  I had/had 12 products I have not registered and installed.  YIKES!!!!
     
    The grass is not greener, the grass is not greener (rinse repeat). 
     
    Yeah I don't know anything about what you people are talking about.
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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/09 22:49:19 (permalink)
    I suffer from it too.
     
    Check out the Variety of sound ThrillseekerVBL Vintage Broadcast Limiter.
    Won't help you with your sickness but it is a very good free plug.
     
    http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/downloads/
     
     
     
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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/09 23:24:50 (permalink)
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    I went to a Store this weekend - brick and mortar, a real store and was looking at the used gear - real physical gear.
     
    They had a nice Vox amp with built-in effects and I started getting googely eyes - then I thought - wait I just picked up IK Amplitube Slash and haven't played with that, and Orange and Metal are on sale - I could for $60 buy those.  yea.....
     
    walked around and found a Line6 POD HD used really great price so I asked the guy if it came with the software reg'd or not - he didn't know.  Gewd knows I couldn't just have the POD, had to have the software.
     
    Then I saw a Proteus 2000 oh my gewd I saved up for one of those way back in the day and never got it.....I could.....wait....Digital Sound Factory has all the Proteus line for $99 - why buy this one box when I could have them ALL!!......
     
    Then the Roland Fantom eyed me and I thought....hmmmm naaaa I really need to go to Groove3.com and watch that Omnisphere tutorial and real that before buying another keyboard.  plus where would I put it on my desk - I could go buy another virtual.......
     
    I didn't buy anything.  Got home and looked things over.  I had/had 12 products I have not registered and installed.  YIKES!!!!
     
    The grass is not greener, the grass is not greener (rinse repeat). 
     
    Yeah I don't know anything about what you people are talking about.


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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/09 23:58:44 (permalink)
    Last year I really got a lot of new plugs and expansion pacs. Some stuff I still haven't touched. And I said that I would hold off this year. And so far I have been able to stay off the hard stuff.

    What I did instead is something that I haven't done in a very long time. I bought three real guitar pedals. A Boss Rotary pedal, a Mesa Tone Burst, and a Mesa Flux Drive. I even broke out my old Danelectro Cool Cat pedal. Been playing guitar almost everyday for the last two months. And enjoying the hell outta myself.

    So I got off the hard stuff and went back to where I came from. I wouldn't say it's better, just different!

    And yes, I wrote some new songs. Just finished the first demo today. And I used my new pedals, and the new Platinum Samples kit for SD3. I also used a FXC preset for bass on it too!

    If I have a problem, I just don't see it. And don't ask my wife anything about this either!!

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/10 01:07:26 (permalink)
    you have a wife AND your a musician AND can afford plugins n' audio toys??!!!!
     
    I am in complete awe of your sir.
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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/10 01:31:53 (permalink)
     . . . so it's the "gear acquisition syndrome" confessional thread, what fun.
    Forgive me, but I may have spent too much this year.
     
    Though I think I've shown some restraint, only buying what I need for what I do musically.
    . . . but, there have been some recent longing feelings for more Native Instruments - Kontakt stuff, since reading Guitarhacker's post.
     
    I have found if you wait long enough, the deals on many incredible softsynths, samples, etc. . . are much more affordable.
    The best softwares always have a demo to test drive, and I've found many that are not worth it, while others are a perfect fit.
    Over the years I've bought software + plugins from companies who don't stay around, very frustrating, when you can't install
    it on the latest Windows OS, and don't want to leave it behind.
     
     . . . is there an online support group for this ?

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/10 02:01:29 (permalink)
    Here's the problem:
     
    1.) The quality is good -- really great amp sims, compressors, EQs, VA synths, hyrbid synths, virtual instruments, sample content, etc. etc. etc.
     
    2.) High bandwidth + easy access = credit card abuse
     
    3.) The ubiquitous "no-brainer" sales, voucher coupons, etc. 
     
    I really think we are in a heyday of sorts when it comes to the quality of some of the products we're seeing today... the Scuffhams, Amplitubes, U-He Divas, Orange Tree Samples, etc. etc.... combine the innovation and quality of the products with lots of competition -- how many great high-end string libraries can compete with VSL today (in relative terms! overall quality, playability, etc.)? There are more than a few, and they're all competing for the scant dollars of poor musician folk. 
     
    Just tonight I just cashed in a $30 voucher at NI for their 50's Drummer...  been on my short list since it was released. So $70 for two great sounding drum kits... it was a 8GB ISO download that my fiber connection chewed through in under 20 minutes. To put things in perspective... in that same 20 minutes I can get in my car, drive across town, and drop $70 on milk, bread, TP, a few pounds of coffee, and whatever else, not to mention the cost of burning the gas. I'd prefer to sit here in my underwear and enjoy a fantastic product for making music... the NI purchase is a.) just too cheap, and b.) just too easy. 
     
    Did I say I just bought drums from NI? I guess I should also admit that over the weekend I also dropped some coin on a few BFD expansions... you know, because FXpansion is having a 50% off sale on expansion packs and DCAM patches... and... well... 50% off is 50% off. 
     
    It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
     
     
     
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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/10 03:59:42 (permalink)
    hellogoodbye
    I am curious if I am the only one here who has the I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom. 
    Anyone else here who knows what I am talking about?




     
    Do you think the syndrom is contagious?
     
     

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/10 04:40:19 (permalink)
    kristoffer
     
    Do you think the syndrom is contagious?

     
    Yes. Definitely. While most viruses/syndroms/diseases are spread by coughing or touching or blood this one is usually spread by reading online forums.

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/10 04:50:01 (permalink)
    hellogoodbye
    kristoffer Do you think the syndrom is contagious?
     Yes. Definitely. While most viruses/syndroms/diseases are spread by coughing or touching or blood this one is usually spread by reading online forums.


    LOL!!😅😅😅😅😅

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/10 07:35:52 (permalink)
    Thank you hellogoodbye for your post. Now, it's safe to come out of the closet 
     
    While I admit it is fun to "collect" gear, plugins, tools, etc., I was becoming increasingly frustrated with the fact that I was not completing anything. Tinkering. Yes, lots of tinkering. Albeit even a few (good) ideas. But, nothing to fruition.
     
    Not too long ago, I discovered this guy's blog. Since then, I've been back on the creative track! His ideas may not  appeal to everyone, but, his overall philosophy is very appealing. Here's a link to an article he wrote pertaining to OP's thread:
     
    http://therecordingrevolution.com/2013/06/03/are-you-using-all-those-plugins/
     
    I'm grateful that I'm no longer waking up in a cold sweat nights, wondering about the "missing plugin"!
     
    Keep on rockin', everybody!

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    Re: The I-want-a-new-plugin syndrom 2013/07/10 07:42:04 (permalink)
    hellogoodbye
    kristoffer
     
    Do you think the syndrom is contagious?

     
    Yes. Definitely. While most viruses/syndroms/diseases are spread by coughing or touching or blood this one is usually spread by reading online forums.


    That's what I thought. And this online forum is bloody serious. 
     
    I think I have it as well. 
    BTW, I'm a hypochondriac.

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