lahteedah
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adjusting all track faders at same time
Hello,
Is there a way to raise or lower all the faders at once so they all move to the exact same amount up or down?
Thank you,
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 15:26:21
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You can add them all to a Control Group. However if you mean ALL faders why not just use a bus instead? Actually even if you only want to adjust levels on a group of tracks sending them to a buss is usually a better way to go. Adjust the track levels so they sound how you like then just control the overall output from the buss.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 15:30:05
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☄ Helpfulby lahteedah 2013/07/07 16:54:07
Oh and if you only want to do this adjustment one time quick group the tracks by clicking on the number of the first track (at the bottom of the console strip) then drag the cursor across the rest of the track numbers. They should all turn blue. Now hold Ctrl and adjust one of the faders.
There are other ways to create groups like this. Look up Quick Groups or Selecting Tracks in the manual.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 15:42:59
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 15:57:42
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 16:05:08
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Yep...I use busses in that way all the time. It's really helpful when I have the track levels where I want them but the mix, or a part of the mix is simply too loud. Rather than trying to bump the one track up (which would put it into the area of clipping) I simply add the other tracks to a bus and then pull the bus fader down as many DB as I need to let the acoustic or mandolin shine without clipping.
I use the GROUP function on faders, but generally only the 2 master faders to the sound card output. That way I can easily control the volume in the studio with ease.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 16:11:17
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I often need to move all the faders except the lead vocal(s) up or down to suit the singer. A shortcut would be nice. What I have been doing is turning Read off globally and then just yanking them all down. Real pain.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 16:13:59
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☄ Helpfulby lahteedah 2013/08/25 15:58:08
Yeah, if you are relatively new to audio production it is very much worthwhile to learn about using busses to achieve different things. Mixing like this is one of the more obvious and basic uses but they are incredibly useful and even crucial to getting things done. For example if you want to apply reverb to your mix you don't necessarily want to use a different reverb on every track. You would create a buss, put the reverb on the buss then use sends or the main output on the tracks to point toward that buss. Now the reverb is applied evenly and any changes you make to the reverb settings will affect all the tracks. If you use sends then you can mix in how much reverb each track gets. EQ, delay and compression are other effects commonly used on busses.
As far as quick grouping in SOnar it is a super easy way to make any kind of change to multiple tracks at once like outputs, gain, pan, solo, mute, record, etc... so it is another very important thing to learn to save yourself time and hassle. Cheers.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 16:18:14
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konradh
I often need to move all the faders except the lead vocal(s) up or down to suit the singer. A shortcut would be nice. What I have been doing is turning Read off globally and then just yanking them all down. Real pain.
You can just hit Ctrl + A to select all the tracks then (or click select the first track, hold Shift then select the last track), Ctrl click to deselect the vocal track (all the other tracks will remain selected) then hold Ctrl while you turn down one of the faders. If you are doing this constantly (I'm assuming this is while tracking a vocalist) you could create a control group with all the faders except the vocal fader. A headphone bus or if your interface has some kind of headphone mix set up would probably be worth looking at. My Scarlett's software allows for multiple headphone mixes.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 16:23:59
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If you adjust the fader of an unselected track whilst holding Ctrl, all the faders will move relative to each other.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 16:26:01
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If you adjust the fader of an unselected track whilst holding Carl, all the faders will move relative to each other.
But does he make house calls? And more importantly how much would he charge to spoon with me whilst I mix? I'm pretty stinky. ;-)
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 16:28:37
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Ha ha. Blinking iPad. I shall edit post.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 16:55:44
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You can add them all to a Control Group. However if you mean ALL faders why not just use a bus instead? Actually even if you only want to adjust levels on a group of tracks sending them to a buss is usually a better way to go. Adjust the track levels so they sound how you like then just control the overall output from the buss.
When i send a group to a buss i seem to lose all my panning. It's there but not quite the same. How can i do parallel busses if i lose my panning? Thank you
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 17:13:36
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☄ Helpfulby lahteedah 2013/08/25 16:00:43
Huh... I don't know why you would lose your pan settings. Make sure the Stereo Interleave buttons on the tracks and the bus are on. If you want to send out "parallel" you can use the Sends module on the tracks (you can use quick grouping to add sends to the same bus on all the tracks to make things quicker). Read up on using Sends in the manual as they are another important part of mixing.
As far as this pan thing I think we may be reaching the limit of how much I can help. I'm still kind of a beginner myself so I may be overlooking something in regards to the routing or summing or Pre Post settings... I just don't know. If you detail exactly what you did to achieve the output to your bus and what the channel settings are then maybe I or one of the smarter dudes can troubleshoot the problem. Cheers.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 17:16:46
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And just to check something... if you used the main track output it should point to the buss you created then the bus output gets pointed to the Master buss. If you used sends and want the entire signal to go to the buss you created (and nowhere else) set the tracks main outputs to None. Maybe that has something to do with it.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 17:33:52
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And just to check something... if you used the main track output it should point to the buss you created then the bus output gets pointed to the Master buss. If you used sends and want the entire signal to go to the buss you created (and nowhere else) set the tracks main outputs to None. Maybe that has something to do with it.
Ok.....I'll check to see if i set the outputs to 'none' THank you!
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 17:52:23
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☄ Helpfulby lahteedah 2013/07/08 08:40:44
When you set it to None you will get a Missing Output warning next time you open the project. Don't worry about that because your sends are now your outputs. However you could just set the output of the track to the buss. It's the same thing really. Sends do however give you a couple extra controls. I used to do it that way for quite a while but switched back to using the main outputs and now only use sends as parallel outputs. It's just a matter of how you want to work. That may not fix your problem though. Just a wild guess.
The most important thing is you know exactly what is being outputted and to where.
Also double check those interleave buttons.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 18:02:38
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Some good info here, guys--thanks.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 18:23:42
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☄ Helpfulby lahteedah 2013/07/08 08:40:33
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Beepster
You can add them all to a Control Group. However if you mean ALL faders why not just use a bus instead? Actually even if you only want to adjust levels on a group of tracks sending them to a buss is usually a better way to go. Adjust the track levels so they sound how you like then just control the overall output from the buss.
When i send a group to a buss i seem to lose all my panning. It's there but not quite the same. How can i do parallel busses if i lose my panning?
Thank you
There is a lot of mixed terminology being used in this thread. Are you routing the tracks to the bus, or using sends? If sends, then are they pre or post fader? Don't forget that sends have their own pan.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/07 20:59:20
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lahteedah
Beepster
You can add them all to a Control Group. However if you mean ALL faders why not just use a bus instead? Actually even if you only want to adjust levels on a group of tracks sending them to a buss is usually a better way to go. Adjust the track levels so they sound how you like then just control the overall output from the buss.
When i send a group to a buss i seem to lose all my panning. It's there but not quite the same. How can i do parallel busses if i lose my panning?
Thank you
When i go 'Post' i get
There is a lot of mixed terminology being used in this thread.
Are you routing the tracks to the bus, or using sends? If sends, then are they pre or post fader?
Don't forget that sends have their own pan.
When i go 'Post' i get the track nearly in mono with less power. When i go not post i get my original and no notice of my 'send'.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/08 04:48:28
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konradh
I often need to move all the faders except the lead vocal(s) up or down to suit the singer. A shortcut would be nice. What I have been doing is turning Read off globally and then just yanking them all down. Real pain.
In this situation, I just grab hold of the buss faders for drums/guitars/keys etc and pull them down to an acceptable level for the singer.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/08 08:34:39
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Beepster
When you set it to None you will get a Missing Output warning next time you open the project. Don't worry about that because your sends are now your outputs. However you could just set the output of the track to the buss. It's the same thing really. Sends do however give you a couple extra controls. I used to do it that way for quite a while but switched back to using the main outputs and now only use sends as parallel outputs. It's just a matter of how you want to work. That may not fix your problem though. Just a wild guess.
The most important thing is you know exactly what is being outputted and to where.
Also double check those interleave buttons.
Yes. There is a lot of study for me in using 'sends' and 'busses' correctly. What i want to do is gather a group of tracks to a send and have processing on that buss while also keeping my original track free to go to master buss with less processing. But as i type this i realize i should just have 2 groups of sends for this; one clean and one processed and then have none of the original track go directly to master bus. This sounds like i need a very organized template which will be very valuable and time saving. Thank you!
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/08 08:40:22
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lahteedah
Beepster
You can add them all to a Control Group. However if you mean ALL faders why not just use a bus instead? Actually even if you only want to adjust levels on a group of tracks sending them to a buss is usually a better way to go. Adjust the track levels so they sound how you like then just control the overall output from the buss.
When i send a group to a buss i seem to lose all my panning. It's there but not quite the same. How can i do parallel busses if i lose my panning?
Thank you
There is a lot of mixed terminology being used in this thread.
Are you routing the tracks to the bus, or using sends? If sends, then are they pre or post fader?
Don't forget that sends have their own pan.
yeah this is still confusing for me. I thought ALL 'sends' went to a new buss. No? i AM confused. I wanted to send my original track(s) to a buss with some processing while keeping the original track also available to master buss. Thanks for deciphering my confusion!
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/08 09:17:50
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☄ Helpfulby lahteedah 2013/07/08 10:33:42
Think of a send as a "copy" of the original track.
The track OUTPUT will go either to sub-buss for grouping purposes e.g "Drums", "Guitars", "Vocals" etc or dorect to your master buss
The track SEND will copy the track output to another buss for parallel processing, such as "Reverb", "Delay", "Parallel Compression" etc where the affected signals are blended back in with the original.
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Re: adjusting all track faders at same time
2013/07/08 10:36:17
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Think of a send as a "copy" of the original track.
The track OUTPUT will go either to sub-buss for grouping purposes e.g "Drums", "Guitars", "Vocals" etc or dorect to your master buss
The track SEND will copy the track output to another buss for parallel processing, such as "Reverb", "Delay", "Parallel Compression" etc where the affected signals are blended back in with the original.
This is very helpful. Thank you
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